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re: Pre-Dawn Raid Results in Mobile Police Shooting Armed 16 year old
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:36 am to Boss13
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:36 am to Boss13
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Seeing as they didn't charge anyone with a firearm violation...
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Adjessom is charged with possession of marijuana and certain persons forbidden of having a firearm.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:37 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Do you really think they were doing a raid for simple marijuana possession???
Maybe not, but something smells fishy. I would like to know what evidence they had to get a warrant for that kind of a raid to only find some pot and a couple of guns to end up with a 16 year old dead.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:37 am to Mushroom1968
quote:when the officers start thinking for themselves I can support them. Blind blanket support is for mouthbreathers
I said it's possible to support your local police dept (should have said officers) and think what happened in OP stupid.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:38 am to Hateradedrink
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Adjessom is charged with possession of marijuana and certain persons forbidden of having a firearm.
That's not who's house got raided, he was not there and turned himself in after the fact...
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:39 am to tilco
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Shouldn’t they have had better intelligence as to who was in the house?
You watch too many movies.
Bottom line is the dumbass kid pointed a gun at police after they identified themselves in a drug raid.
Sad....
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:40 am to Boss13
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The police were not looking for a couple dime bags.
If thats all they found, and it is according to the article, why was this warranted?
I can see it's not critical thinking day. Let's do a venn diagram.
As you can see, they probably thought there was more than a couple dime bags here. Or perhaps an armed suspect.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 9:46 am
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:40 am to riverdiver
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No one died over “pot possession”.
Wannabe Thug died because he pointed a pistol at them.
Now, that said, I don’t agree with the overwhelming number of pre-Dawn SWAT raids as if they’re chasing AQ in Fallujah.
The guy they wanted wasn’t there. They did a piss poor job of gathering intelligence, as someone else said they could’ve arrested him any time.
I mean, the raid doesn't happen if they're not going after a drug dealer.
Still a whole lot of questions here that folks don't really seem to be asking.
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Mobile Police Chief Paul Prine said it is believed that about five-six people were inside the home Monday morning including someone as young as 8-years-old.
Is there any kind of policy that takes into account the others in the home before conducting a raid like this. From all accounts, this guy isn't a murderer. Was it absolutely necessary to detain this guy while putting others in the house at risk?
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According to the search affidavit, officers obtained a search warrant for the home after receiving complaints from neighbors about drug activity, even submitting video and photographic proof to law enforcement.
So was this all they used to justify the raid on the residence? That seems pretty flimsy.
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After executing the search warrant, officers found marijuana and two weapons inside the home.
Adjessom is charged with possession of marijuana and certain persons forbidden of having a firearm.
Was the raid just for marijuana based on the neighbor's videos? Again, seems pretty flimsy justification.
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Police were originally looking for 18-year-old Deangelo Adjessom, who was not at the property during the raid.
A few hours later, Adjessom was seen giving his identification card to a police officer on the scene, turning himself in. He was charged with possession of marijuana.
What intel indicated that he would be at the home at the time of the raid? Is it that hard to put a car on the property and if you know what he looks like from previous videos to indicate whether he's there or not?
It's an issue when shoddy police work results in the death of someone, whether they're a "thug" or not. Because it means there's a solid likelihood that they frick up at some point and kill someone that's innocent.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 9:43 am
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:41 am to Klondikekajun
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Bottom line is the dumbass kid pointed a gun at police after they identified themselves in a drug raid.
Tell me you can't see the bigger picture without telling me.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:41 am to oogabooga68
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DEFUND THE PO-LICE!!!!!
It is also fascinating that the only efficient government agency and the one that can not ever suffer a hair cut is the police. Schools? frick 'em, slash their bloated budget. Drinking water? frick 'em, ought to be a private matter.
Police? They must receive more and more money even though the general consensus is that they are doing a lousy job and it is getting lousier every day...if, of course, you are of the opinion their job is to prevent crime and to protect and serve. Most people will state without hesitation that crime is up and eeryone is in danger of being a victim every minute of every day (they'd be wrong) and the problem is the police do not have enough money and there are not enough people in prison.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:43 am to Boss13
That’s not “no one was charged with a gun violation”.
The kid who pointed the gun is dead. Saying he “wasn’t charged” is a stupid as frick argument from a stupid as frick person.
Edited to insult you more after realizing how dumb you are
The kid who pointed the gun is dead. Saying he “wasn’t charged” is a stupid as frick argument from a stupid as frick person.
Edited to insult you more after realizing how dumb you are
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 9:46 am
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:43 am to Klondikekajun
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Bottom line is the dumbass kid pointed a gun at police after they identified themselves in a drug raid.
When did they identify themselves?
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:44 am to tadman
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The police were not looking for a couple dime bags.
If thats all they found, and it is according to the article, why was this warranted?
I can see it's not critical thinking day. Let's do a venn diagram.
If what they were looking for was not in the house, why did a 16 year old kid have to die?
If the police want to break into your house and look for meth, are they allowed to do that because they "think" they will find it? Or should they be prohibited by doing so until they have more than a hunch that you're doing something wrong?
It's beside the point that police shouldn't be allowed to break into random peoples houses looking for crimes, but if you don't find a crime after killing someone...
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:45 am to SuperSaint
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when the officers start thinking for themselves I can support them. Blind blanket support is for mouthbreathers
Shouldn't blindly support anything. Many officers do go against these kinds of raids. Many departments I know have officers that speak out against this kind of stuff or refuse to take part in it. I'm fire, not law enforcement but close friends and family who are, within different departments.
Corrupt cops get fired all the time, unless they do something horrific nobody cares about it though. Most of the times they get caught, it's being turned in by other cops.
I talk shite to cops more than anyone, that's part of my job as a firefighter.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:45 am to AwgustaDawg
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It is also fascinating that the only efficient government agency and the one that can not ever suffer a hair cut is the police.
Muh small government.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:46 am to Mushroom1968
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Plenty of street cops don't care for their SWAT comrades.
I suspect this is true. The average cop, in my experience, is just doing a job. The SWAT types make that job infinitely more difficult as does the gung-ho knock 'em in the head cop. The problem with the current state of policing in the US is the swat type and the knock 'em in the head type are what a loud portion of society expects. That segment of society does not care about guilt or innocence, victims, crime, nothing...all they care about is arrests and convictions and increasing the misery of largely low income people in the US to satisfy their twisted sense of revenge.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:46 am to Hateradedrink
Predawn drug raids are dumb.
Reserve that stuff for murderers.
Reserve that stuff for murderers.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:47 am to Hateradedrink
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That’s not “no one was charged with a gun violation”.
The kid who pointed the gun is dead. Saying he “wasn’t charged” is a stupid as frick argument from a stupid as frick person.
Edited to insult you more after realizing how dumb you are
Seeing how the house had at least 6 people in it according to the article and none of them were charged, it would seem that you are in fact the stupid one. Also, who is typing for you because you obviously cant read.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:47 am to NYNolaguy1
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When did they identify themselves?
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He further explained, “We understand, especially that time of the morning, that we need to wake folks up. I’m confident in this scenario that our officers, multiple officers did everything they could to knock and announce and make their presence known before we make an entry into the residence.”
There's video apparently that won't be released until its reviewed by a Grand Jury, so I'm guessing we'll find out then whether they actually announced. I haven't read anything that says it was a no-knock.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:48 am to Boss13
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If what they were looking for was not in the house, why did a 16 year old kid have to die?
From the news
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16 year old pointed a laser sighted pistol at police and at least one officer opened fire
This isn't hard. Don't point a gun at the cops.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:48 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Good luck identifying cops when it’s pitch black, they are dressed in all black, and blind you with their strobing stream lights
Sounds like you speak from experience. How are you still alive when they broke your door down and yiu defended yourself? Mustve been a miracle.,
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 9:50 am
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