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re: Potential Gulf Storm before Irma (NHC Dropped This)
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:42 am to GEAUXmedic
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:42 am to GEAUXmedic
Jesus, that is depressing to see.
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:42 am to GEAUXmedic
Is that a projected path for this "new" storm? And this will be in addition to the remnants of Harvey?
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:42 am to upgrayedd
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Can you explain how this happens (in fairly simple terms for an idiot like me)?
I'll post something this evening once we have more model data. But the long and short of it, Harvey departs and an area favorable for thunderstorms is left in the southern Gulf. Thunderstorms thunderstorm long enough and a new systems forms.
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:42 am to upgrayedd
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Can you explain how this happens (in fairly simple terms for an idiot like me)?
This is getting into rds and bay territory, but I'll do my best. Either one of them, please correct any mistakes as I'm extrapolating some things.
Harvey will transition into an "extratropical" cyclone as he moves along north. Instead of being a nice symmetric system, he'll end up looking more like your typical midwest low pressure system or a nor-easter with a cold and warm front as pictured below.
The trailing "cold" front will extend into the Gulf of Mexico. The front is a boundary between cooler dry continental air and the warm moist gulf air. Cooler dry air is more dense than the incoming warm gulf air, and near the bottom where there is less forcing of the dry air into the gulf there's an opportunity for the warm air to start overrunning the cold and rising up creating a low pressure.
That low pressure will be positioned over the warm gulf waters and start sucking up more warm air and becoming a "warm" core low, which we all know as a tropical cyclone.
That's at least how the process makes sense to me. Guys like rds and baytiger have a much deeper education on the atmosphere than I do, so I may be off the mark with some of this.
Finally, all these storms as "fun" is me being sarcastic.
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:44 am to Duke
quote:Unless you're just being sarcastic, GFY.
Late August and September is such fun.
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:45 am to LSURussian
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Unless you're just being sarcastic, GFY.
I got my flooded house back liveable like a month and a half ago. Do you think the prospect of a storm coming here is "fun" for me?
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:45 am to Duke
good info thanks Duke, but I don't eve remember seeing this before is this a rare event?
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:46 am to rds dc
What am I missing here? There is absolutely nothing on radar in the gulf
Edit: nevermind. Just read Dukes post
Edit: nevermind. Just read Dukes post
This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 11:49 am
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:46 am to rds dc
989mb, that's just under a cat one right?
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:48 am to Duke
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:49 am to No8Easy2
quote:
good info thanks Duke, but I don't eve remember seeing this before is this a rare event?
It happens more than you think, but typically on the back of a late season front early in the hurricane season. It's a typical source of those june/early july weak TS that form up in the gulf.
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:49 am to LSURussian
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It's difficult to determine sarcasm from a written statement unless the poster uses this emoticon
It's all good Russian. Any misinterpretation is of my own doing.
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:51 am to Duke
For what it's worth, your tone seemed pretty clear to me. 
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:58 am to GEAUXmedic
You've gotta be shitting me
Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:23 pm to rds dc
Could 2017 be Texas' version of 2004 Florida?
ETA: as far as numbers, not size
ETA: as far as numbers, not size
This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:39 pm to Duke
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Any misinterpretation is of my own doing
Speaking of Misinterpretation, I swear to God, I've been reading your posts in the storm thread, and I just realized after all of this time that you're not PJ.
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