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re: Portland residents, business owners want city officials to 'fix' homeless problem

Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:28 am to
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:28 am to
I can understand people that pay taxes, and contribute to their city being a better place to live, wanting to get rid of people who don't.

Does Fox News write a new article about homeless people every day?
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:39 am to
I was just in Portland for a week, rode bikes and walked everywhere and thoroughly enjoyed. It's my favorite city in the US. Is there a homeless problem? Yes...is there a homeless problem where I live in Dallas? Yes. Is there a homeless problem in most every major city? Yes. What is the solution? Reagan cut housing assistance for cities back in the 80s which exploded the homeless population especially on the west coast where it was already very expensive to live. Money is needed for affordable housing and mental health care.
Posted by tk for tu juan
Houston
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:44 am to
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The solution to all this is simple.

Soylent Green
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:45 am to
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s...is there a homeless problem where I live in Dallas? Yes. Is there a homeless problem in most every major city? Yes. What is the solution? Reagan cut housing assistance for cities back in the 80s which exploded the homeless population especially on the west coast where it was already very expensive to live. Money is needed for affordable housing and mental health care.


Put them able bodied individuals to work! Trash pick-up, municipal cleaning, etc.. in exchange they get to sleep in shelters and free medical evaluation. Benefits both the homeless and the cities. Anyone who does not comply and tries to avoid periods of labor (truancy) gets arrested
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:12 pm to
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Does Fox News write a new article about homeless people every day?
It is a multiple-article thing they're doing this summer, which covers major cities on the west coast, their policies, and how they affect homelessness
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 1:37 pm to
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Put them able bodied individuals to work! Trash pick-up, municipal cleaning, etc


That's a great idea, except most of them are mentally ill. Getting them to work will be like herding cats.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 1:41 pm to
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That's a great idea, except most of them are mentally ill. Getting them to work will be like herding cats.


Several cities have tried it with some success
Posted by LSUballs
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 1:41 pm to
Being a sorry pice of shite is not a mental illness. While I’m sure there are some legit mentally ill people amongst them, the majority of them are only doing it because the can get away with it.
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 1:47 pm to
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hat's a great idea, except most of them are mentally ill. Getting them to work will be like herding cats.


I agree... I want to say make them into a chain gang but you can't do that anymore. Something along the line of "chain gang" but more suited to today's working laws and ethical treatment
Posted by Reservoir dawg
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 1:53 pm to
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I think in this case, San Francisco is turning into Portland.


San Francisco has been like this before Portland.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 2:08 pm to
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Several cities have tried it with some success


Link?

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Being a sorry pice of shite is not a mental illness.


Lucky for you.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38566 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:11 pm to
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Portland is doing its best to become Seattle and, as we all know, Seattle is Dying.
Portland is even worse than Seattle as far as homelessness, in my experience. And the homeless in Portland tend to be younger and more aggressive. In fact, I think Portland might even be helping Seattle with its homeless problem by offering even more incentives to them than Seattle does.

That said, don't get me wrong, Seattle has a serious homeless problem.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:15 pm to
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LINK


Most homeless are capable of employment.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:16 pm to
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Lucky for you.



Right. Lucky for me I’m not an able bodied piece of shite who chooses to lay on the street all day. One less thing.
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 3:17 pm
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:17 pm to
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[quote]LINK ] Most homeless are capable of employment.


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Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:19 pm to
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It is a cool town but every year we get closer to the progressive Portland vibe. We have been here almost 20 years and it is a totally different place now. Not bad but hipster gentrification is like a disease. It starts with brewpubs (sweet!), morphs in to gentrification (new, vibrant stuff is nice so, ok) and ultimately ends up with all of the transplant shitheads deciding that they know best and totally displacing any indigenous goodness that is left. It is still good but I can smell the creeping progressive-ism...


I hear you brother. Austin is headed down the same path. Weird and funky has been replaced with hip and trendy. In some cases I believe that gentrification is a necessary evil, but when it begins to obliterate the things that make a place special, it's soul for lack of a better word, it becomes a problem. The west coast refugees move here and begin to ruin the place in the same manner that they ruined their home city/state. It's infuriating and heartbreaking at the same time.


Nashville it is also happening.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:26 pm to
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Asheville, NC
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It is a cool town but every year we get closer to the progressive Portland vibe. We have been here almost 20 years and it is a totally different place now. Not bad but hipster gentrification is like a disease. It starts with brewpubs (sweet!), morphs in to gentrification (new, vibrant stuff is nice so, ok) and ultimately ends up with all of the transplant shitheads deciding that they know best and totally displacing any indigenous goodness that is left. It is still good but I can smell the creeping progressive-ism...


I had a neighbor that was evicted a few years ago and became homeless on the streets of Seattle. Coincidentally, I checked out her facebook page earlier today to see whatever happened to her and she's homeless in Asheville now. Looks like Asheville might be on the radar out here.
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 3:27 pm
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
33829 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:29 pm to
Well said.

I did have my vehicle broken into in Portland recently. Likely a homeless dude who wanted to take my backpack. Took about a grand in valuables but could have taken much more.

I think antifa protestors are a bunch of cowards, but to be honest I’ve been in the heart of Portland three weekends since this started and haven’t once come across them
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:31 pm to
Downtown Portland has been hobo city for 20 years or more. Screw that place
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:35 pm to
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Lucky for me I’m not an able bodied piece of shite who chooses to lay on the street all day.


If you know anything about mentally ill people, and you apparently do not, then you know they have problems "choosing" to do anything. Schizophrenia, which is common in homeless people, are really unable to "choose" to do much of anything. You may be able bodied but you are a piece of shite for flippantly condemning people you know nothing about.
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