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re: Police Shootings in Black America: The 2018 Data Is In

Posted on 1/20/19 at 6:36 pm to
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 6:36 pm to
Weird.

There were at least two in Jackson last year. One dude who pulled a rifle on the cop and fired at him. Another was a woman who allegedly tried to use her car.
Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 6:36 pm to
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So I am the dumbass


Yes.

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The little girl in Houston is national news when the alleged perpetrator is white. Nfl players donating paychecks, Hollywood stars chiming in, etc. and bet people like yourself were glued too the liberal media


You are too clueless to even understand what you are yammering about.

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Find out the perpetrator is black and the mom lied about her story probably because it was about drugs and then the story dissappears. Honestly I think it is sad that it has come too this point that an innocent little girl died and the mom used a lie that she knew would take the light off of her and on to the color of skin.


Without a doubt, mom needs to fry.

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Point being why do so many black lives have too be lost for the liberal media and people like yourself too realize only color here is green with this media not saving black lives.



Stop, go back, and read what I said.

Let me be simple for you. Any loss of life is tragic. Since the OP was about people shot by cops, my original point was that the 17 people shot was 17 too many.
Posted by fjlee90
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 6:38 pm to
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Not surprising. Over on the Poliboard people are utterly convinced terrorists are crossing the Mexican border by the thousands and that only a big beautiful wall will save America.

How many actual terrorist attacks from people who crossed that border? None apparently. Certainly not 17.


Deflection is a bold tactic.
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 6:39 pm to
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Let me be simple for you. Any loss of life is tragic. Since the OP was about people shot by cops, my original point was that the 17 people shot was 17 too many


That's how I read your post. Not that you meant just 17 black people or that it was intended in any race based way. Just that 17 people is too many. The cops arent always to blame. There are bad ones of course. The good far outweigh the bad, but the bad ones make the news. And, in most cases, people will blame cops regardless of the actions of the suspect.
Posted by Mulat
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:30 pm to
Stop with your white privileged facts.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:53 pm to
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That's a failure rate that's too low to be considered significant to anybody with a basic understanding of statistics. Perfection is unattainable. The system we have is pretty damn good, but by all means, let's do everything we can to frick it up because it isn't perfect.


Exactly. Do you realize how many people die in car accidents every year? We could easily save thousands of lives if we lower the speed limit to 10 mph on every road.

This in indisputable. Why aren’t people sky screaming over that? Because we all except a certain amount of risk in life. There is risk in every aspect of life. There is no perfect.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:55 pm to
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17 people shot was 17 too many.


I mean no logical person is going to argue with that statement.

My argument is what you would have to do to get that number to zero will come with other costs and in not feasible. Just like my example of lowering the speed limit to 10 mph.

To get that number to zero what do you have to do? Under police areas probably. How many innocent lives will that end up costing. It’s not always as cut and dry as you think
This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 7:57 pm
Posted by NolakcbrTiger
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:00 pm to
Only some black lives matter to those who claim black lives matter.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:02 pm to
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Data Is In


On behalf of SJWs everywhere - I reject your facts.

Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:03 pm to
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My argument is what you would have to do to get that number to zero will come with other costs and in not feasible.


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We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too


It's going to be hard to eliminate unnecessary killing, but it is something we still need to be working towards.
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:08 pm to
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Facts are racist


Yup.Statistics.

And since math is racist that's a bonus double down of racism.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:12 pm to
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Facts are racist


In America 2019 facts are irrelevant to refute desired outrage.
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:13 pm to
Cops exist only to kill innocent black men.
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:17 pm to
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My argument is what you would have to do to get that number to zero will come with other costs and in not feasible. Just like my example of lowering the speed limit to 10 mph.

To get that number to zero what do you have to do? Under police areas probably. How many innocent lives will that end up costing. It’s not always as cut and dry as you think


It's not only that. To get that number to zero youd have to get suspects to stop doing things that put police officers and citizens are risk as well.

You can say the cops should stop shooting suspects all you want(which Is what a lot of people do) but how are you going to get the suspects to stop shooting at police? Or pointing guns at them. Or charging at and attacking them.

You cant control the suspects actions, so that number will never be at 0.
This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 8:22 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:00 pm to
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You cant control the suspects actions, so that number will never be at 0.


Very true. I didn’t address that because it’s not a variable we can control. The only thing I could possible imagine is the idiotic idea to not send police into these neighborhoods. If these morons don’t think that would end up costing many MANY more lives they need to be committed
Posted by bamaboy87
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:05 pm to
Agreed
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:05 pm to
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It's going to be hard to eliminate unnecessary killing, but it is something we still need to be working towards.



You will never eliminate that.

But listening to the news, you would think that cops are out there murdering unarmed black males multiple times a day. That it was a rampant problem since that is where all the focus is at when the true problem is being largely ignored.

Let's take a look at the most recent data, 2017.

In 2017, 21 unarmed black males were killed by police across the country. In the MILLIONS of interactions that police officers had with black males across the country in 2017, 21 were killed.

Compare that to:

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Data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation showed that in 2017, there were 2,627 murders of blacks by other blacks in the United States.



So where is all the media focus, community outrage, and effort focused? On the 2,627 killed or the 21?

Of course the 21.

So out of 2,648 killings of blacks, the majority of the outrage is directed at 0.0079% of the total killings that occurred.

Think about that.

99.992% of the killings of blacks are largely ignored by democratic politicians, the media, and "community leaders", and they have a large segment of this country believing that police are the true threat to black males in this country. Based on the coverage, you would think that cops are the ones that kill 2,600 a year.

Here is the truth...if police officers really wanted black men dead in this country, all the would have to do is stop patrolling the inner cities and wait....

But despite the hate and ire directed at them, police officers still run into those very same neighborhoods that despise them and those officers do everything they can to protect the very same lives that they are accused of murdering by the media, politicians, and community leaders
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:37 pm to
How many unarmed police did blacks kill last year
This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 9:38 pm
Posted by JamalSanders
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Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:52 pm to
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You will never eliminate that.


Never is a big word.

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99.992% of the killings of blacks are largely ignored by democratic politicians, the media, and "community leaders", and they have a large segment of this country believing that police are the true threat to black males in this country. Based on the coverage, you would think that cops are the ones that kill 2,600 a year.

Here is the truth...if police officers really wanted black men dead in this country, all the would have to do is stop patrolling the inner cities and wait....

But despite the hate and ire directed at them, police officers still run into those very same neighborhoods that despise them and those officers do everything they can to protect the very same lives that they are accused of murdering by the media, politicians, and community leaders


We're in agreement here.
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