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re: Police go to wrong address, kill homeowner in the middle of the night

Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:40 pm to
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Meh, you can't blame them for repeating strategies that have gotten them off the hook in the past. I bet I can predict what happens here. DA convenes a grand jury. Gets life threatening testimony from officer Billy Bob, claims he felt threatened, and that the deceased was uncooperative. Then put officer Billy Bob's wife on the stand and say that she lives in constant fear of him not coming home everyday. Then get all of his LEO buddies on the stand to say what a wonderful officer he is. Grand Jury returns a no- bill. Family then sues and gets a settlement front the city in which no officers feel any financial liability, and in which the town assumes no fault. No officers are reprimanded or punished. In fact some may even be promoted for properly following all the rules. The family can never speak of it again either. Feds come in and do a civil rights investigation, but no charges are ever filed. Case over.


Yep. And the end result is an innocent man lays dead in the ground while the guilty cop gets to go on with his life.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:42 pm to
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And the end result is an innocent man lays dead in the ground while the guilty cop gets to go on with his life.



I really love how you're all about whining about your rights being trampled on while you are positive this cop is guilty of something.

I guess he doesn't get the same rights you do.
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:42 pm to
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Police actually have a leg to stand on in this case. Responding to a "shots fired" call & encounter a man outside with a gun. Not excusing his murder, simply pointing to circumstances the GBI will use to justify it. Of course, the article goes on to state no shots were ever fired. The transcripts of the 911 call & dispatcher's communication will be important.



Who the fricks the GBI?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:43 pm to
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I guess he doesn't get the same rights you do.


When he goes onto an innocent man's property and kills him? No, he does not have the same rights as me at that point.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:43 pm to
Georgia Bureau of Investigation. It might go by a different name.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:45 pm to
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Who the fricks the GBI?



Georgia Bureau of Investigation.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:46 pm to
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When he goes onto an innocent man's property and kills him? No, he does not have the same rights as me at that point.


You don't know what happened, but you somehow know he is guilty of something. You're a hypocrite.
Posted by Peazey
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:46 pm to
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guess he doesn't get the same rights you do.


This isn't a court of law. They can state their opinion that the cop is guilty. It isn't an infringement of anyone's rights. Cut it out with your dishonest semantics based arguments.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:47 pm to
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someone should be in jail over this frick up.

Someone should be put to death over this frick up.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:47 pm to
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The transcripts of the 911 call & dispatcher's communication will be important.


Not nearly as important as the police report that no one can contradict. Why have bodycams when you have this sweet setup?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:47 pm to
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This isn't a court of law. They can state their opinion that the cop is guilty. It isn't an infringement of anyone's rights. Cut it out with your dishonest semantics based arguments.



It's not semantics though. Especially with Darth, NYNola, etc. They are very actively vocal about personal rights, especially when it comes to the police. Darth is being a hypocrite here, sorry that bothers you.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:49 pm to
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How'd the officers end up at the wrong location?
They probably used a GPS instead of, you know, reading the numbers on the house
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:50 pm to
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You don't know what happened, but you somehow know he is guilty of something


I do know what happened. They went to the wrong house and killed an innocent man. Only a fricking idiot (like you) would believe this bullshite "he refused to drop his weapon" lie. Had they identified themselves as police, this homeowner would have no reason to not follow their instructions unless he just happened to be suicidal at that moment. They shot this guy before he knew who was out there. They never identified themselves and they never gave him instructions. They shot him by mistake and now they're covering their asses.
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 4:54 pm
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:50 pm to
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you are positive this cop is guilty of something.



He is guilty of being an idiot. We can all agree on that. He is most likely guilty of being a liar also.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:51 pm to
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You don't know what happened, but you somehow know he is guilty of something. You're a hypocrite.


Here's what I know: (and you and I have tangled many times in the past).

1)An innocent homeowner is dead.
2)The odds of anyone being prosecuted regardless of guilt is infinitesimally small.
3)Most DA's can't afford to prosecute the people the people they rely on for convictions.
4)The odds of this happening again is very high.

Is this justice?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:52 pm to
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I do know what happened.


No you don't.

quote:

Only a fricking idiot (like you) would believe this bullshite "he refused to drop his weapon" lie. Had they identified themselves as police, this homeowner would have no reason to not follow their instructions unless he just happened to be suicidal at that moment. They shot this guy before he knew who was out there.



All speculation. This will be my last post on it, since we both know you're not going to admit to you being a hypocrite, but you are. Nothing wrong with it, we all do it.
Posted by Tigers_Saints
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:52 pm to
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I really love how you're all about whining about your rights being trampled on while you are positive this cop is guilty of something.

I guess he doesn't get the same rights you do.


If I shoot a man on his own property as he's walking out of his garage and claim self-defense, do you think I'd be free to go?

Pretty sure I'd be arrested on the spot, charged, and have to basically prove my innocence at that point.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:53 pm to
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It's not semantics though. Especially with Darth, NYNola, etc. They are very actively vocal about personal rights, especially when it comes to the police. Darth is being a hypocrite here, sorry that bothers you.


I am not even claiming he is even guilty, simply that this is such a well worn pattern that regardless of guilt, the outcome is almost certain.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120068 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:54 pm to
Between this story and the one with the cop letting the dog attack someone, it is understandable why people are suspicious of cops. In both situations, I don't think there was intent to hurt anyone, but its the way the situations are being handled.

I understand there are times when they have to make split second decision, but how many officers on the streets are not capable of make the correct decision when put in a stressed moment?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:55 pm to
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I am not even claiming he is even guilty, simply that this is such a well worn pattern that regardless of guilt, the outcome is almost certain.


I was speaking specifically about Darth in this instance. I've never noticed you to be a hypocrite FWIW
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