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re: Police body slam 12 year old girl student
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:52 am to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:52 am to NYNolaguy1
So the officers in the schools are causing the students to act up?
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:52 am to NYNolaguy1
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Want to know the reason why incidents like this aren't on national news on YouTube at Catholic schools? Because there aren't officers on duty there.
Do you know why Catholic schools don't feel they need a police officer on duty?
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:54 am to SG_Geaux
quote:about as much as slamming her would
Right. Because letting her roam the hallways wouldn't disrupt the entire school
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:55 am to NYNolaguy1
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There's no way the problem could be the officers in schools right?
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an officer put a student in a chokehold to stop a fight
Big fricking deal. How else do you expect them to break up a fight?
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:55 am to VerlanderBEAST
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about as much as slamming her would
He got her the frick out of there. He ended the disruption.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:57 am to noonan
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And are you saying that none of that happened? How are you able to know this from that video?
Wait- are you suggesting now my proposal was reasonable?
I watched the officer go after the most combative girl, then get drawn into a video confrontation on youtube. Classic meathead response. It takes two to fight. Remove the non combative one from the scene, them come back for the instigator. It's not like she's going to go anywhere, and there's no optics of an LEO body slamming a 100 lb girl.
Once the two are separated, then suspend her.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:59 am to roadGator
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Do you know why Catholic schools don't feel they need a police officer on duty?
Because they can kick students out whenever they want. That holds way more power than bringing in the law.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:59 am to SG_Geaux
quote:lol again these cops have to treated like 5 year-olds and be taught to use their words.
Big fricking deal. How else do you expect them to break up a fight?
Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:00 am to SG_Geaux
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Big fricking deal. How else do you expect them to break up a fight?
You're joking right? You're OK with officers choking out students? Hell, why not just shoot them. That will teach them a lesson.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:02 am to NYNolaguy1
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Because they can kick students out whenever they want. That holds way more power than bringing in the law.
That's one of the reasons.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:02 am to NYNolaguy1
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Because they can kick students out whenever they want. That holds way more power than bringing in the law.
No. It's because the typical student in a Catholic school has parents that give a shite about teaching them right from wrong.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:03 am to SG_Geaux
quote:the disruption of slamming her will last for weeks. Any qualified officer could of easily defused that with little to no force.
He got her the frick out of there. He ended the disruption
Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:06 am to NYNolaguy1
I got into a fight in high school where neither one of us was stopping for verbal commands. Grown arse man coach busts through the crowd to separate us and tossed us around like rag dolls. The only thing either of our parents did was climb our asses for being idiots.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:07 am to LSUTANGERINE
Kids need more accountability. She looks older than 12, but any ways that is irrelevant and obviously not the case.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:10 am to bayourougebengal
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It's because the typical student in a Catholic school has parents that give a shite about teaching them right from wrong.
Ok. But there's still resistance to kicking out students that cause trouble in school. The real problem here is teachers are passing students that aren't qualified or who don't care and come to school because they are forced to. My solution would be to remove the students who don't want to be there. Eventually the students remaining will get the idea they made the right decision, and those who don't graduate will fare very poorly and be an example to those who are thinking about making the same choices.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:11 am to NYNolaguy1
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You're OK with officers choking out students?
Putting someone in a choke hold is not the same as choking them out.
And yes, if that is what it takes to break up a fight I am all for it.
Would you rather they punch them in the face? Use their batons? Use their gun?
Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:13 am to bayourougebengal
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Grown arse man coach busts through the crowd to separate us and tossed us around like rag dolls. The only thing either of our parents did was climb our asses for being idiots.
I don't have a problem with that. It should be the jobs if the educators to discipline the students, not law enforcement.
Hell my middle school teacher would flip the desks of students that were sleeping, use a cane for those who talked too much in class, and made students kneel outside on hot concrete in September in New Orleans.
No law enforcement was needed to discipline my class of all boys.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:20 am to SG_Geaux
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Putting someone in a choke hold is not the same as choking them out.
And yes, if that is what it takes to break up a fight I am all for it.
Would you rather they punch them in the face? Use their batons? Use their gun?
I think you're missing my point. There's ways of avoiding the situation all together. As my jiu-jitsu teacher always told us "the best fight you can win is the one where no one fights". The idea is to avoid the situation altogether rather than winning it. It's what separates the meatheads from the martial arts masters.
I am very familiar with how chokes work. I don't have enough faith that officers like the one on the video would know when to let up, or that he would recognize when the fights over. Again, that's why avoiding this altogether is best.
Just to be clear, you're justifying slamming a maybe 100 lb girl because a fully trained officer couldn't diffuse a situation. I can't imagine how he does with someone many times her size. Perhaps that's the reason many feel LEO have overstepped their role.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:22 am to NYNolaguy1
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I don't have a problem with that. It should be the jobs if the educators to discipline the students, not law enforcement.
Hell my middle school teacher would flip the desks of students that were sleeping, use a cane for those who talked too much in class, and made students kneel outside on hot concrete in September in New Orleans.
No law enforcement was needed to discipline my class of all boys.
The trend of uniformed police officers in freaking middle schools is really indeed quite troubling.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:23 am to NYNolaguy1
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Eventually the students remaining will get the idea they made the right decision, and those who don't graduate will fare very poorly and be an example to those who are thinking about making the same choices.
Such a long history of drop outs. I'm not seeing the results of all these examples creating change.
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