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re: Please inform me why Entergy is doing rolling blackouts?
Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:54 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:54 pm to LSUFanHouston
Yes but to me the company went cheap and now expect it’s customers to suffer
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:56 pm to The Torch
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Following your daddy Texas
Yep, trying to be texas
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:07 pm to tigerbacon
Instrument air lines froze? Gas lines froze? You all do realize that these plants aren’t designed with the freeze protection that they have up north. If you built in cost for every imaginable contingency, they would never get built due to zero ROI.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:09 pm to Capt ST
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If you built in cost for every imaginable contingency, they would never get built due to zero ROI.
Exactly. I think people just don’t appreciate that there can be winter storms.
If the same situation was happening after a hurricane would anyone be complaining?
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:11 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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If the same situation was happening after a hurricane would anyone be complaining?
You act like you’ve never read this board after a hurricane.
The answer is yes.
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:14 pm to tigerbacon
As people return to power they basically turn on everything. Fridge and heater have to catch up, they turn on electronics, TVs, lights, dish washer, clothes washer and dryer... when you bring thousands of homes back online in a short period of time, all of this energy usage is a strain.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:15 pm to tigerbacon
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Yes but to me the company went cheap and now expect it’s customers to suffer
Entergy isn't having the problems. It's other parts of the regional system and Entergy is basically being forced to "share" electricity with others.
I think Entergy is a shite company, but this is out of their control.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:15 pm to tigerbacon
quote:You people are idiots.
the company went cheap and now expect it’s customers to suffer
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:16 pm to tigerbacon
I know. This can't be worse than a hurricane.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:17 pm to LSUFanHouston
Louisiana’s regulator is MISO. They control the energy on a day to day and even hourly basis.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:22 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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If the same situation was happening after a hurricane would anyone be complaining?
Yep.
They'd just be mad and hot instead of mad and cold.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:22 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Entergy isn't having the problems. It's other parts of the regional system and Entergy is basically being forced to "share" electricity with others.
You say that, but to be fair it’s entirely possible that Entergy IS having the problems. They are by far the largest power generation company in Louisiana.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:24 pm to ell_13
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Louisiana’s regulator is MISO.
Sounds delicious.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:49 pm to tigerbacon
All the heating devices in my home are natural gas so frick all of you dummies
With all electric homes.
With all electric homes.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:54 pm to tigerbacon
I’m going to keep posting this in an effort to educate the ignorant in this state.
Entergy belongs to the Midcontinent Independent System Operator group, or MISO. In layman’s terms, it’s a regional coordination group that manages generation and transmission of available power. Power is bought and sold like any other commodity, and the miso marketplace helps ensure grid stability so we avoid something like the northeast blackout where one plant went offline causing a chain reaction that sent the entire northeast into a blackout. They coordinate outages at plants to ensure base demand is met at all times.
MISOs service area essentially is Minnesota directly south, most of Missouri, Arky, Mississippi, LA, and Entergy Texas. Conveniently, also the section of the country experiencing record cold and winter weather. Demand is at an all time high, and you’ve had some plants go offline due to winter issues, which only makes the situation more precarious. These messages are going out to everyone in MISO, not just Louisiana and Mississippi.
Texas outside of Entergy has its own isolated grid. Great for cost, not so great for something like this. Texas gets 25% of its power from renewables like solar and wind, of which right now ain’t producing Dick. So they lost 25% generation, then lost a few other base load plants due to winter weather issues, and it caused the grid to collapse.
If you want to actually talk about how power works, I’m all ears. Please don’t let this interrupt your bitching about Entergy, though.
Entergy belongs to the Midcontinent Independent System Operator group, or MISO. In layman’s terms, it’s a regional coordination group that manages generation and transmission of available power. Power is bought and sold like any other commodity, and the miso marketplace helps ensure grid stability so we avoid something like the northeast blackout where one plant went offline causing a chain reaction that sent the entire northeast into a blackout. They coordinate outages at plants to ensure base demand is met at all times.
MISOs service area essentially is Minnesota directly south, most of Missouri, Arky, Mississippi, LA, and Entergy Texas. Conveniently, also the section of the country experiencing record cold and winter weather. Demand is at an all time high, and you’ve had some plants go offline due to winter issues, which only makes the situation more precarious. These messages are going out to everyone in MISO, not just Louisiana and Mississippi.
Texas outside of Entergy has its own isolated grid. Great for cost, not so great for something like this. Texas gets 25% of its power from renewables like solar and wind, of which right now ain’t producing Dick. So they lost 25% generation, then lost a few other base load plants due to winter weather issues, and it caused the grid to collapse.
If you want to actually talk about how power works, I’m all ears. Please don’t let this interrupt your bitching about Entergy, though.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:56 pm to tigerbacon
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Why are they having trouble yesterday and today with keeping up demand when so many in the Baton Rouge area is without power? I do not understand why other than just greed of a private business
That’s not exactly how demand works. It’s not just you running your heater. They’re trying to maintain margin and stability. Grid disturbances will cause catastrophic damage to a power generator if the grid does something wonky and goes out of phase. Imagine a boat cresting waves and then one comes out of sequence and slams into the side. So if some crazy load causes a unit to trip, and the grid reacts and causes some spike, then other units trip, etc, etc. Then you’ve got to stabilize the grid, then bring back the units online. And that’s difficult when you’ve got the entire grid peaking out. Essentially if an area of the grid goes funky, they’ll roll blackouts to stabilize and then bring them back on.
I’m being very basic and general here. There’s a ton of engineering-eze that makes this work that really is beyond what I can explain.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:00 pm to tigerbacon
Louisiana’s windmills must’ve froze up.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:06 pm to ell_13
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Louisiana’s regulator is MISO. They control the energy on a day to day and even hourly basis.
Yup. They are the ones calling the shots here with the rolling blackouts.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:08 pm to Celery
Just lost power here in Ms delta. I guess some lines went down because of the freezing rain we got this afternoon. Thank God for the backup generator.
I don’t see how people will be able to only rely on green energy in our lifetime.
I don’t see how people will be able to only rely on green energy in our lifetime.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:12 pm to elprez00
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I’m going to keep posting this in an effort to educate the ignorant in this state.
good luck
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