re: Please Educate Me On The Situation In Iraq

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he is a freaking moron

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You want a 20 year long war?

Is ten not long enough to be in a war we had no business being in?

we need to stay away.

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there would never be victory there

might as well cut your losses unless you want us to occupy Iraq forever

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exactly, the only wat to control Iraq is to micromanage it and basically make it a puppet with our military in control.

I don't want that. I think it's crazy.

I also think it's nuts to say he doesn't support the troops when he is the one not putting them in harms way over other nation's squabbles.

If it was about removing a despot and only that we would be in Africa and Korea where true evil lives.

Saddam was a bad guy, but they are much worse off because WE decided to be world police.

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Napoleon

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all we needed was a presence over there.

running around touting that we were leaving was nothing more than a political stunt.

We have had presences in other places without full scale war (ie. Germany, Japan) and they seemed to end up pretty good.

we left too soon, wether we should have gone in the first place is a moot point because the fact is we went. Now we are leaving innocents to get brutalized, and that is wrong. We made our bed and right or wrong we should lie in it and do whats right, not what looks good on a campaign sticker.

And don't act like Sadam wasn't so bad, that a-hole was the real deal and he needed to go. Take your ADD meds.

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The country was on the verge of becoming a stabilized democracy

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really?

They were on the verge of being stable?

But to be stable they needed our military to keep them stable?

Is that called being "stable" or being a "puppet" of an occupation force?

Aren't we in essence at that point opposing the will of the masses?
The same thing we arm terrorists for in other parts of the region.
"Oh that dictator is bad to his people, lets fund the extremists and let him deal with them, then we can deal with the extremists later."


I've said before we need to make weapons that we can self destruct.
Not 100% serious, but Iraq is only a concern to us because it's political. One of our biggest Allies in the region (the one who kills Christians if they used to be Muslims and doesn't let women drive.. hint) is THE place that most 911 hijackers came from.

Why we went for Iraq I will never know.
But I will not buy it was just to remove an evil despot.

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The country was on the verge of becoming a stabilized democracy

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no it wasn't

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And don't act like Sadam wasn't so bad, that a-hole was the real deal and he needed to go. Take your ADD meds.

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He still isn't/wasn't in the top ten worst dictators at that point.
Again he allowed women high places in government, he allowed Christians in government. Iraq now will become a theocracy. We can install another "shah" type leader or think that democracy works for everyone, but it's a fairytale.


Innocents are dying all over the world, we did not go into Iraq just to be the "good guys" and take out a despot.

If that was the case we would have been in Africa.

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really?

They were on the verge of being stable?

But to be stable they needed our military to keep them stable?

Is that called being "stable" or being a "puppet" of an occupation force?

Aren't we in essence at that point opposing the will of the masses?
The same thing we arm terrorists for in other parts of the region.
"Oh that dictator is bad to his people, lets fund the extremists and let him deal with them, then we can deal with the extremists later."


I've said before we need to make weapons that we can self destruct.
Not 100% serious, but Iraq is only a concern to us because it's political. One of our biggest Allies in the region (the one who kills Christians if they used to be Muslims and doesn't let women drive.. hint) is THE place that most 911 hijackers came from.

Why we went for Iraq I will never know.
But I will not buy it was just to remove an evil despot.

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(see how easy that is?)

Look at the violence in 2006 and before. Look at the situation in 2009.

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