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re: Please don't raise your kid to be like this

Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:28 am to
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:28 am to
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If that was my kid he would have no car after this incident. He would not be allowed to go anywhere except school and church.


I could wreck, come in extremely late/early, smell like smoke and beer and still have a car.

If I had brought home a ticket for behavior (not mechanical like tint/exhaust/lights) I would have been walking again. This coming from the guy literally busted and jailed as a teen 3 times for pot. Parents can forgive accident, stupid is unforgivable.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:28 am to
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I raised my children old school and they are head and shoulders over their peers


Yep, Old school kids will handle diversity 100% better.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30163 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:33 am to
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With a tinted windshield. Cop was actually pretty fair, but the guy's attitude didn't help. I can't believe anyone would defend this POS. The cop probably just gives him a warning if he had acted more mature. Keep in mind it sounded like he wasn't even suppose to be driving due to some sort of criminal violation.

Tinted windshield is one of those selective enforcement deals the cops like to play. Just like speeding. The kid did have a poor attitude. So did the cop. I haven't defended the kid, I've only pointed out dubious reasons for the stop, and the shittiness of both of them.
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These interactions can go so much smoother, but people like you would rather whine about it.

What do you mean you people? I haven't whined about anything.
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I use to drive a sports car at his age and would get randomly pulled over, because of it. I wasn't even speeding or committing any traffic violations. I didn't behave this way and they didn't even offer a reason as to why I was pulled over. They even asked to search my vehicle which doesn't bother me. It got me out of the situation much quicker than fighting it. I get others who rather fight for their privacy or whatever, but I rather make the interaction go as smooth as possible.

Translation: I also drove a conspicuous vehicle as a teenage knucklehead. The cops pulled me over for no reason, but I kowtowed and bootlicked to avoid the fine. Then I let them violate my civil rights with an unlawful search with zero probable cause, but, hey, I hope they enjoyed the ball.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57047 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:43 am to
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What kind of changes are needed now?



There are chapters and books written about this stuff and not to be rude but I don't have time today to explain all of it so I'll offer an example and context.

One example I will give is empowering adolescents and teens to be included and make important decisions for themselves and even the household and (even when you know their choice is wrong), let them go through with it and guide them through how to overcome the adversity that comes with it. I am not trying to be anecdotal here and say that NOBODY does this or NOBODY has ever done this but it isn't done enough.

Mark Gregston of Heartlight Ministries once said "Many over estimate the effectiveness and grossly underestimate the effect of today's culture."

-marijuana is legal (in some form) in most states now
-gender issues dominate social and main stream media
-teens communicate more with their fingers than voices
-teens spend an avg of ten hours a day looking at some sort of screen
-entitlement is everywhere
-little respect for authority
-most adolescents spend most of their time in the shallow end of the relationship pool
-teens are drinking less now, dating less now, driving less now
-social media gives everyone a platform which over inflates someones opinion of themselves and their peers
-the AMA has increased the age of adolescence to age 24
-imagination and creativity is dwindling
-it's more popular to record and share fights or conflicts than resolve them

This isn't a knock on anyones specific style but it's just different raising a kid now than the 90s, 80s and 70s. The world has shrunk and where kids go no for validation, value and self worth is different.

It doesnt mean that parents now shouldn't do ANYTHING their parents did to them and of course, there are some things that are always valuable in any parent / child relationship but the most effective parenting style today has to factor in the the changes we live in and more importantly the world our kids live in because they are the ones who truly feel it.
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:52 am to
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This isn't a knock on anyones specific style but it's just different raising a kid now than the 90s, 80s and 70s. The world has shrunk and where kids go no for validation, value and self worth is different.

It doesnt mean that parents now shouldn't do ANYTHING their parents did to them and of course, there are some things that are always valuable in any parent / child relationship but the most effective parenting style today has to factor in the the changes we live in and more importantly the world our kids live in because they are the ones who truly feel it.

These words are the result of deliberate conditioning to attack the traditional home. Whether deliberate or not, they are intended to weaken parental authority and put the children in charge of determining what is right or wrong for themselves, which is a really stupid way to raise children.

You decide as a parent whom your children interact with, what electronics, shows, songs, culture they are exposed to. You decide how to treat them and form their views of right and wrong. You decide whther your job and sports and entertainment are more important than family cohesion and identity. You decide feom a young age what religious or pbilosophical beliefs your children are exposed to. You can't control everything and I don't pretend you can, but letting your five year old veg out in front of Disney eight hours a day and your ten year old on the ipad and your twelve year old on a phone with internet all with a healthy dose of secular leftist public school is a guarentee for failure.

Parents' views are the primary views and basis for all other views formed. Just saying it's different now is dishonest and lazy.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57047 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:55 am to
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You decide as a parent whom your children interact with, what electronics, shows, songs, culture they are exposed to.




Good luck
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:01 am to
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Good luck

My kids are 3/4 raised exactly how I described and I know what I'm talking about. I've been listening to people like you make excuses for two decades. You're wrong.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:02 am to
Weak Fathers caused this
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
50977 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:04 am to
Or it's parents that want to be friends with their kids instead of being an actual parent and tell their child no when needed.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57047 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:05 am to
Don't get me wrong...this isn't about being easy on today's kid. In fact, discipline with clear expectations and clear guidelines are as important as ever; it's how it's done that can be improved.

-How they learn in school is different
-What they learn in school is different
-High schools and especially colleges (even here in the deep blue south) are very different
-Post graduate life is different
-The application and job search process is different
-The interview process is different
-The workplace (whether blue or white collar) is different

(Again, anecdotal exclusions are not the topic here. So for those homeschool kids that were locked in a basement, worked on a farm, etc. that's not what were talking about. This is bigger than the exceptions and exclusions; it's a societal change)

The world is different and preparing kids for a world that doesnt exist anymore doesn't help them.

It's not the removal of consequences but rather the same or MORE importance on them but just done differently.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 10:09 am
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28511 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:05 am to
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I use to drive a sports car at his age and would get randomly pulled over, because of it. I wasn't even speeding or committing any traffic violations. I didn't behave this way and they didn't even offer a reason as to why I was pulled over. They even asked to search my vehicle which doesn't bother me. It got me out of the situation much quicker than fighting it. I get others who rather fight for their privacy or whatever, but I rather make the interaction go as smooth as possible.


What a bootlicker.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57047 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:06 am to
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You're wrong.


If you think you have controlled what your kids listened to, what they've watched and their social circles you're not just wrong, you're delusional.
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:13 am to
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h clear expectations and clear guidelines are as important as ever; it's how it's done that can be improved.

Code for don't whip your children or you'll turn them into terrorists or deviants or sociopaths, which is a lie. It's about consistent and upfront punishment for bad behavior and rewarding good behavior like it always has been. As for school, if you're still sending your children to public achool and you have any choice you are playing with fire. They aren't being educated in school and companies are waking up to that fact. They need you to teach them to be useful, teachable, humble. Employers are required by woke ideology to give lip service to the crap, but they need thinkers and producers, not diversity hires. They still need old fashioned work ethic and will promote if you do what you're told and don't cause problems. And the pendulum is swinging back away from that nonsense.

You can raise your children however you want, but pretending like you don't have the tools is deceiving yourself. It's a siren song that will cause your children to crash and you will shrug your shoulders because "kids these days." Right?
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:15 am to
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If you think you have controlled what your kids listened to, what they've watched and their social circles you're not just wrong, you're delusional.

Again, I have done it. This isn't hypothetical. And not by locking them in their rooms. I taught them to think for thenselves after teaching them to think right and modeling it on their lives. As they grow up, you let out the kite string until they are flying on their own and making their own choices and then you cut the string. It works.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 10:16 am
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
4103 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:21 am to
You must drive a blue mustang.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:23 am to
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Or it's parents that want to be friends with their kids instead of being an actual parent and tell their child no when needed.


There was a seminal moment in my household where I looked at my son and said: "I love you more than life itself....because of this, I will not hesitate to beat your azz if you do this again"....
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61413 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:28 am to
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this is one of the best police and public interaction channels on youtube

This rash of videos about not providing your license or whatever is just asinine.

You were fricking speeding, you got caught, dont waste everyones time please.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57047 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:38 am to
Nevermind...
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 10:42 am
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:46 am to
I mean, this "kid" is 19 and has a suspended license for DUI/possession of marijuana. His parents are clearly still insuring the car, and they actually showed up to help because he was getting a ticket? So much wrong here.

I'm going to put a fair amount of blame on the parents.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47753 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:59 am to
Bring caneing to the US


Imagine having to deal with the BS daily @ your job. You wonder why cops get fed up.

We allow the criminals & deviants too much leeway
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