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re: Playing piano harder than learning to type?

Posted on 12/20/18 at 10:08 am to
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/20/18 at 10:08 am to
It’s exactly the same. Have you ever noticed that there are the same number of keys on a keyboard and a piano? Once you memorize where they are you just have to spell the songs in your head using notes instead of letters. There are even documented cases of blind people being able to play the piano.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/20/18 at 10:11 am to
Learned to play some piano recently. Helps if you have a nimble flexible hand. I have a thick working mans kinda hands that are somewhat jacked up due to almost two years of front squatting. My hands would cramp at first but they got better as I played more
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 10:13 am to
Way different.

Get lessons.

Have fun.

You can get a decent keyboard for under $400. It will record your efforts. It will be a player piano for Chopin and Beethoven. At some price point the keyboard will have realistic action. So if you hit key lightly the sound is less loud.
That's your objective as you shop.
Yamaha has one $399. Weighted action. That's the ticket.


Be at peace. Lessons once a week. Actually practice every day. An hour minimum.
Your hands will be sore a couple of weeks as you become more flexible. Scales will limber you up.

Look for music books in garage sales so you learn variety.

Headset if you live with others.

Force yourself to master reading music.
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 10:28 am
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25042 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 10:16 am to
I think piano skills help when someone is learning typing (happened to me) more than typing skills help someone who is learning to play piano.

You need to find someone like Kozak in Shreveport (Kozak was an ace percussionist, particularly on the vibes and marimba, and he taught music classes) who had a way of teaching that would advance adults quickly.

I'm not sure what it was called. He gave me a lesson or two and it really helped me shake off the rust.

Posted by Vrai
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/20/18 at 10:45 am to
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I think piano skills help when someone is learning typing (happened to me) more than typing skills help someone who is learning to play piano.


I don't know if this is true across the board, but I found it to be the case with me. I've played the piano most of my life, and when I took my first typing class, my freshman year of high school on an electric typewriter, I was hitting 96/wpm.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
36553 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 10:51 am to
To be completely honest, good luck. If you aren’t able to have both feet and hands doing completely separate shite all in time, you won’t get past scales, arpeggios, and chicken scratching out nursery rhymes.

Oh and you better learn all cows eat grass, good boys don’t fight anymore, face, and every good boy does fine
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 11:01 am
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 11:09 am to
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Be at peace. Lessons once a week. Actually practice every day. An hour minimum. Your hands will be sore a couple of weeks as you become more flexible. Scales will limber you up. Look for music books in garage sales so you learn variety. Headset if you live with others. Force yourself to master reading music.


All of this, almost anyone can learn to play the piano if they follow this, those that that never advance beyond beginner didn't practice.

Find a teacher you like, if your personalities clash it will imped progress.

Learn to read music, its not hard, learning songs from YouTube is very time consuming compared to putting a sheet of music in front of you and playing. Once you can read music it makes it easy to learn other instruments if you are inclined.

Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
36553 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 11:13 am to
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Learn to read music, its not hard,


Learning to read music in ONE clef is challenging enough for most people. Learning to read both clefs simultaneously and translating that to either hand is entirely different.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2199 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 11:25 am to
A buddy of mine has an online course that teaches you to play chord piano in 21 days.

Chord pain doesn't involve sheet music or practicing scales. I've characterized it as a cheaters version to piano. You can sit down and play most popular songs without too much effort.

You wouldn't enter a classical piano recital, but you could play songs for friends and family- no problem.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34207 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 11:40 am to
It’d be like typing without the letters shown on the keys. Kinda.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5249 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 11:54 am to
You can learn. I didnt touch a guitar until I was 37. Now I'm a solid intermediate.

Can you remember 12 things? Western music is based around 12 music notes. That's it. The piano repeats those 12 notes in different octaves. When you learn scales you are learning what 12 notes sound good together.

Couple things about learning an instrument. You have to commit to at least 30 minutes a day of practice. I find it stress relieving.

Second, you have to have patience. You have to practice very slow. After a while of practicing slow you will naturally speed up. I think the slow practice pace is what does people in and makes them quit.

Third, start off with an instructor. They will stop bad habits before they form.

Last dont get discouraged. You might go weeks feeling like you are all thumbs. But a weird thing happens, one day it will just click.

Every step of progress I have made happened that way. One day it would click. The day it clicks is the best feeling ever.
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 12:04 pm
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23228 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:03 pm to
The OT responses do suck most of the time

It is true that it is easier to learn instruments at a young age over being old. Out brains have actually physically hardened

Adult beginners are a real thing though and you can learn. I would not expect to ever get close to concert level, but you can tear it up. You are looking at about 3-5 years to be moderately good, but after 6 months you will be able to bust out a tune that sounds pretty sweet.

The biggest thing to decide are
1. Do you want to focus on music theory or just play the piano?

2. Do you want to read music or just learn by ear?

3. What is you main focus for style - classical/ragtime/rock/boogie/etc.

4. Instructor lead or self-taught.

A Piano teacher is the best route, however you can self-teach for a good 6 months before you get one.

If you are going self-taught this is a great book to start


Here is a good link for a Adult Beginner forum
Piano World Adult Beginner
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
20921 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

Playing piano harder than learning to type?



Learning to play piano would be like learning to type Korean on a Korean keyboard.

You aren't just learning to put down the keys, you are learning to read a new language (music) at the same time.



Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23228 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:11 pm to
I myself need to get back into instructor lead in 2019. I have fallen off over the past year and barely played.

If you try Alfreds, this is a good Youtube link of someone playing the songs. She is just a self-taught learner as well, but she does it at a slow pace that is easy to follow.

https://www.youtube.com/user/ElenaNitoPianista

I would love to play like this guy, he does cool things
https://www.youtube.com/user/BrasilianMusician

This is a good Youtube if you want to learn some songs quickly. I used him to learn most of Fur Elise
Joe Raciti
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18697 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:14 pm to
Yeah I tried this a couple years ago. I've always wanted to learn an instrument, and I'm an excellent typist. If I really push myself hard and focus, I can type 110 words per minute with perfect accuracy. So I thought, hey, how hard could piano/keyboard be? So I bought a keyboard.

The skill turned out to not translate at all. In fact, being so used to typing might have even set me back a bit.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
51443 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:17 pm to
My guess is that it is more the twice as hard to learn piano than it is to learn how to type.

Typing is taught in one semester of school class. You can learn a lot on piano in that same amount of time, if you take almost daily lessons.

Are you going to take almost daily one-hour lesson son piano for a period of four months? If so, you'll learn quite a bit and will be able to play SOME piano.
Posted by LSUisKING
Edgard
Member since Dec 2007
2999 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 1:05 pm to
Way more difficult to play piano. It isn't even close. But, you can do it. Find a teacher, and go for it!

Some of these responses make me wonder about the intelligence level of some of you! OR they are just the "typical" OT responses as usual...
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 1:10 pm to
I play a little piano. Played as a kid and got back into it a few years ago.

It's hard to say because difficulty varies per person. It's much harder than learning to type simply because typing doesn't require simultaneously hitting multiple keys with multiple fingers on each hand (you don't type a word by hitting all the keys at once). There's a much greater degree of coordination and timing involved.

You should buy a cheap keyboard and some children's beginners books. I say children's books because it'll break things down for you in a way that doesn't involve your having any knowledge of piano terminology.
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 1:13 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117648 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 1:15 pm to
I taught myself how to type. Seriously, in HS they use to offer typing (not sure if that's still something they offer), but I never took it. Just from using a computer, it was a process. I started off looking at the keyboard for each letter while I typed, then got to the point where I was able to look up while I typed with one hand, but I would still make a lot of mistakes, then I just continued to progress until where I am now, an average typer..

The piano, it depends on what level you want to learn it. Are we talking about being able to play it by reading music? That was the tough part for me, but part of it had to do with the fact that at the time I wasn't all that interested in learning how to read music.

But if you just want to learn how to play some songs, depending on how difficult the song is to play, you can probably just find a youtube video that will help you learn.
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