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re: Playing in my first casino poker tournament -- Looking for Strategy Tips!
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:39 am to TheOcean
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:39 am to TheOcean
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Short stacked? We don't even know what the starting blinds are. And you're definitely wrong on someone not having an edge. A decent, competent player would have a pretty big edge in some $200 30-50 man casino tournament.
I play some tournaments for fun. It's a challenge and if you are a patient person a lot of fun.
I also play cash games, which are entirely different from tournaments, but I play them for fun too.
If anyone is thinking about making a living playing poker, good luck. It's extremely tough. You can make money, but it's best not to play with your peers, but with less skilled players if you can find some of them.
In most of the casino tournaments I play there is a hard core group that plays several times a week. These guys do have an edge. They are experienced players and they try to make money in the long run. They aren't finishing in the money every time, but you can bet they come out ahead over several months are the years as long as there are people like myself playing too.
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:40 am to the_watcher
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No no no take my advice and mine only 1. Tell everyone your bad beat stories so they know you play good cards 2. Repeatedly ask the dealer "who's it on" so you are sure it's your turn 3. Also repeatedly ask dealer "how much is it" when facing a bet 4. After winning a hand always explain why you did what on each street 5. If you call a river bet and lose say "yea that's what I thought you had" so they know you can read hands well If you need more pro tips let me know
You played with me at the Beau, right?
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:40 am to choupic
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You gotta know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em
Know when to walk away and when to run and don't ever count your money at the table, there will be time for that shite later.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:43 am to TigerPride10
There shouldn't ever be a set strategy. You want to change your game up all the time so people can't pinpoint your hands.
However, early on, be very picky and patient. Feel out the tables and players a little. I only say this since it's your first tournament. You'll want to get comfortable first before getting a little crazy.
Use your position to your advantage. Take blinds from time to time. Try not to position yourself in being in those all in hands. Even if you have the advantage the majority of the time, all it takes is one hand to frick it all up.
However, early on, be very picky and patient. Feel out the tables and players a little. I only say this since it's your first tournament. You'll want to get comfortable first before getting a little crazy.
Use your position to your advantage. Take blinds from time to time. Try not to position yourself in being in those all in hands. Even if you have the advantage the majority of the time, all it takes is one hand to frick it all up.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:59 am to illuminatic
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It's a daily/weekly casino tournament. Of course it's short stacked. Have you ever played in one that wasn't?
I don't know about LA but Delaware Park runs regular deep stack live NLH even for only a $100 buy-in. Of course, the blinds start climbing faster than usual though.
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That whole live vs online thing doesn't apply since Black Friday. Also, your third sentence was true in 2006.
Having an edge on the players isn't the issue. It's the variance involved in these things.
Mostly agreed but I've found this isn't always the case in Vegas, a little scouting can sometimes be quite profitable even today.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:18 am to bawbarn
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I was in school around the time of the poker boom. There were some annoying fricks who thought they were the next big thing in poker.
I might know you based on this.
I honestly thought 10 dudes from our fraternity might secede because of how annoyed we got with their poker games and the lengths we went to to frick with them.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:39 am to Graham Kracka
quote:how can you know this without knowing the blind structure?
First off if you are only getting 5k in starting chips y'all are getting ripped off for a $200 buy in.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:00 pm to illuminatic
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That whole live vs online thing doesn't apply since Black Friday.
Online play is still much, much more difficult than live play. In fact, it's not even close.
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Also, your third sentence was true in 2006.
Judging from what I read online, I'm sure a lot of live players know about basic concepts, but aren't good at applying them.
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Having an edge on the players isn't the issue. It's the variance involved in these things. It's like a 90 man SNG.
A big edge is a big edge. A good player should have a solid ROI (10-15%; maybe more) playing those soft $200 30-50 mans.
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:13 pm to TigerPride10
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Blind Structure: 20 minutes
Players: Minimum 30, Max 50
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1 rebuy
no me gusta
it's going to be a push fest very quickly
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
with a rebuy especially, didn't notice the blind times, 20 is pretty quick for live
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:25 pm to Brageous
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didn't notice the blind times
that's all i used to look for to judge if i wanted to try a tourney or not. tourneys have lots of variance. fast blinds = totally random
i haven't played this shite in forever but a tourney like this? i'd do this
1st stack: super aggro. try to double up. then you can play tighter, but still play aggressive. aim to get 1-2 more stacks
IF you can do that. super conservative until rebuy period is almost over. then you can pick some desperate folks out trying to bust to rebuy at 100%. this is legal chip dumping.
if you bust out before the rebuy, you're probably fricked unless you get great cards. rebuy and then play semi-conservative and try to survive until the "legal chip dumping" begins...unless you just get hot cards.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:35 pm to Pettifogger
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I might know you based on this.
a poster in this thread may have met me at the mean poker tables of BR
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:42 pm to TigerPride10
All in first hand.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Imagine if it was a bounty tournament on top of this. Talk about uber aggressive and entertaining
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:54 pm to TigerPride10
Be aggressive but play smart early since you have a rebuy. Build your stack and then be patient and grind to the final table. Then you will have to decide a strategy based on your chip stack to reach payout.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 1:05 pm to TheOcean
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Online play is still much, much more difficult than live play. In fact, it's not even close.
Agreed. I didn't mean to suggest they were equal, just that reading twoplustwo gives you the impression that live is so easy, you can walk into a poker room and own everybody at will. Some nights feel that way but it still requires effort. The online regs were always light years ahead of live guys. The only thing that made online profitable was the massive player pool. You could avoid the regs due to the massive amount of people. The online landscape is so unappealing right now it makes me sad thinking about it. When I quit, the whole player pool was a bunch of regs trying to squeeze a bb out each other. Miserable. If you are able, I suggest you implement some live if you are still actively playing.
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A big edge is a big edge. A good player should have a solid ROI (10-15%; maybe more) playing those soft $200 30-50 mans.
I didn't say anything that suggested otherwise. I simply stated that any edge he might have doesn't really matter in this format. You are talking about one tournament. How many of these things do you thing he would have to play in order to have any clue at all about his edge?
Posted on 6/4/15 at 1:33 pm to TigerPride10
quote:It's not 2004. Take this shite to the soccer board.
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