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re: Planning starts on Washington St exit relocation

Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
15071 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:14 pm to
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We won't see it completed till 2025. Fact


It will be interesting to see if "fast tracking" the project gets it done by then. No way should it take that long, but 2025 is a good over/under.
Posted by Chitter Chatter
In and Out of Consciousness
Member since Sep 2009
4667 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:16 pm to
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Plus, unless you are the most naive person in the world, the black residents of "the bottom" neighborhood are going to raise holy hell if anyone tries to remove the Washington St. exit. It has nothing to do with logic. They are going to cry racism (at least until the political leaders and community organizers have their pockets greased by the state and fedgov.)


take down a statue but don't dare eliminate an exit that many don't use
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
19202 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:16 pm to
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Eliminate some traffic lights


I think Florida Blvd from downtown to Livingston could be improved by eliminating many lights and intersections. The service roads on Florida are far too underutilized.

Just creating an alternate route for downtown workers would free up a bunch of interstate traffic at rush hour.

Choctaw is also another road that is not utilized to it's potential. Four lanes all the way from the river to almost the parish line at Oneal. With easier access from I-10/12, that could quickly become an alternate route across the parish.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18885 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:20 pm to
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The old bridge is largely under utilized. If Airline Highway moved traffic with ANY efficiency, more traffic would go that direction and then down LA1 or 415.


It moves well enough for me to get out of town. Stop giving away my secret route.

The problem with Airline is that it is setup as a city street throughout much of it. Many of the businesses would need to be bought out in order to put in a frontage road on both sides.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
11947 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:35 pm to
What frustrates me is that no matter what you do to that exit or how many lanes you add, traffic will still slow down at the bridge. It may help it a little bit, but not much. Until we get a loop or bypass traffic will continue to be terrible.

Imagine how bad traffic will be while they are widening I-10 and fixing the Washington St exit for multiple years. It is going to be horrendous.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37747 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:52 pm to
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It is going to be horrendous.



well take heart in the fact that no matter what they want to do, it will be 5-10 years before they actually get around to doing it. The Intracoastal Bridge on LA1 is the WORST in the state. Beyond repair. Too expensive to fix. A lost cause. Unsafe beyond hope. Know when they plan to build a new one?


2020 or something like that.



but its gonna be a four lane beauty when they finally get around to doing it.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:57 pm to
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1. You have more 18 wheelers on 10 than ever before. If eastbound traffic ahead of the bridge slows even for just a few minutes, it creates a reverberating effect back to WBR. Once you slow them down, those 18 wheelers take forever to climb up the bridge. That slows everything behind them down.


I tell people this all the time. If you are in a traffic jam, look for the lanes with 18 wheelers and use another lane.

Once they hit the breaks, that entire lane is fricked.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112673 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:02 pm to
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There is no entrance ramp from Washington St.to east I-10.


Da fuq?

Then where exactly is that on ramp immediately BEFORE Dalrymple coming from?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41824 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:06 pm to
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it's become one of those symbols of the "NBR v. white people" debate in BR i think it's more symbolic than anything else, but it is what it is


Offer a quid pro quo, close the two Perkins Road ramps (1 on and 1 off) and Washington Street off. and call it even.

Use the available space to widen I-10 and to upgrade the Dalrymple and Acadian exits.

It would be a net plus for everyone concerned.
Posted by Dorothy
Munchkinland
Member since Oct 2008
18154 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:47 pm to
IIRC, the entrance ramp just before the Dalrymple exit actually comes from farther north than Washington St., closer to Louise. You can't directly access I-10 from Washington; you have to go under the interstate and around the block back to Louise in order to get on the ramp and onto I-10 eastbound.

So the original point of getting off at Nicholson and back on at Washington to avoid most of the bridge congestion can be done, but in a kind of roundabout way.
Posted by WallsAllAroundMe
Member since Jan 2016
1065 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 2:04 pm to
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Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 2:39 pm to
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close the present exit and proceed with the plans above. Then worry about this meaningless exit


Or don't worry about it at all and let them get off at Dalrymple less than 1/4 mile down.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 2:44 pm to
Just as long as they don't get rid of the Washington Street Entrance Ramp...

That bad boy is my secret traffic weapon for commuting and post-LSU games as well!
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69574 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 2:44 pm to
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Or don't worry about it at all and let them get off at Dalrymple less than 1/4 mile down.


This is how I would handle it...but then the residents on Dalrymple might complain
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 3:40 pm to
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residents on Dalrymple


You have a valid point as would they. I wouldn't want that Washington Street trash passing my house every day either.
Posted by TigerFan365
Member since Jan 2016
46 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 3:42 pm to
This won't do much to help because the sharp turn will still slow traffic down to a crawl causing chain reaction braking all the way to LA415
Posted by Dan Bilzerian
..on my yacht or jet.
Member since Dec 2014
1864 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 3:45 pm to
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Just get off at Nicholson and get back on I10 at the Washington St exit. It's like the traffic was never there.



..or head north on I-110, get off at Florida and re-enter heading South on I-110 until the merge.

Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 4:19 pm to
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Washington St exit ELIMINATION


Fixed it for common sense and what really should happen.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57970 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 5:02 pm to
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I think Florida Blvd from downtown to Livingston could be improved by eliminating many lights and intersections. The service roads on Florida are far too underutilized.

Just creating an alternate route for downtown workers would free up a bunch of interstate traffic at rush hour.


I think a raised 4-lane toll road with entrances/exits at Acadian, Airline, Sherwood, Denham & Livingston would work very well along with those changes. The previous proposal of running a toll road down Airline was just ridiculous.

Ideally they would take this time to expand the entire 110-12 corridor to 10 lanes because what we have now just bottlenecks everything in both directions.

Going west you have 3 lanes of 10 and 3 lanes of 12 merge into 5 lanes until College then merge to 4 lanes until Acadian then 3 lanes until you get to the 10/110 where you have 2 lanes going to each and a middle one that divides (instead of the onramp after Dalrymple being the beginning of the outer lane).

Going east you have 3 lanes of 10 and 3 lanes of 110 merging into 3 lanes (with a 4th lane lasting all of a couple hundred yards until it crazily ends at an offramp). These 3 lanes then continue to the other split where one side goes off in 3 lanes while the other has to merge down to 2 briefly before once again becoming 3.

Run two more lanes off the I10 bridge and extend them all the way down to the 10/12 split and fix the I10 side so that the extra lane matches up so that you have 2 full lanes going in each direction and the middle lane splitting into a 3rd lane for each (instead of the cluster-frickery of the current 10 side that goes to 2 then a 3rd lane appears magically on the inside).
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6439 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 5:59 pm to
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This northern route in the capture doesn't move well enough to be an alternative route. The right of way is there. It may not need to be a freeway the entire route, but it has to be improved significantly over what is there now. The speeds are too low, there are too many lights, and there are too many at-grade rail road crossings to be efficient.


Instead of using airline to the old bridge, why not just use the new bridge at Plaquemine that was just built. Oh, wait........
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