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re: Plane Crash in France - 148 on board

Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:00 am to
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68813 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:00 am to
quote:

looks normal to me and lines up with the route it took yesterday


Missed that.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26459 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:01 am to
Horrible news. I imagine it is a scary way to go. I always feel terrible for the passenger's families.

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The Airbus seems like a POS, but I'm only going off recent memory. They might have a fine safety record.


I took an older 767 from ATL to CDG before boarding an A320 to IST. The Airbus had a knack for making noises mid flight that had passengers wondering if it were broken. Other than that, it was a decent plane. Not unlike a 737 in size or configuration.

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I'm pretty sure this is the first blemish on the Airbus record to date.


It's not.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 10:11 am
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
5596 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:13 am to
Haha, looks like I was completely wrong. I felt like I read something the other day that said the Airbus had the safest record of any manufacturer. Maybe it was just the next gen model.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:18 am to
I'm not a pilot and I don't know the history of the 320's "unsafe" autopilot system, but they don't have the market cornered on autopilot related accidents. That 777 crash at SFO a year or two ago was pilot error, but involved the autopilot system. On final approach, the crew had the autopilot partially engaged or in the wrong mode or something. The plane sank below the glide path and was almost in the bay before one of the pilots realized how low they were. They tried to abort and got the nose up a little, but still hit the seawall at the end of the runway.

I'd be interested to hear what 777Tiger has to say about your 320 autopilot complaint. I wouldn't get on an MD-80 for years after the Alaska Air screw jack crash in CA, so I don't blame you for avoiding 320s if you feel you have reason to.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39938 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:21 am to
Nothing like reading this breaking story while in flight. A little unnerving for me right now.

RIP to those that lost their lives today in this tragedy.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12406 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:26 am to
Thoughts and prayers. Terrible stuff.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30192 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:43 am to
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Maybe it was just the next gen model.


Newer ones have had less time to crash.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:09 pm to
There's a shitload of 320s out there, so something is bound to happen to some of them. Per a Boeing study, they have 0.14 fatalities per million flight hours. Apparently, this is a good number.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
11591 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:11 pm to
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Kinda scary, me and some family will be there in June



RIP, MLSter......May you post stupid shite in heaven
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:14 pm to
Obviously a terrorist attack. Hopefully Germany invades some place and conducts a holocaust on the Muslims.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 12:17 pm
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
5596 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:48 pm to
Riddle me that...no way
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298081 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:01 pm to
8 minute unexplained descent. Makes you wonder.

Just reached cruising altitude then suddenly make a rapid descent. Wonder if it were some human activity.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 1:02 pm
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30192 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:03 pm to
They may have had hypoxia before they realized something was wrong.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298081 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:28 pm to
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They may have had hypoxia before they realized something was wrong.



Yeah, wondered about this as well but in modern planes, you'd think there would be enough safeguards unless something was wrong with the oxygen system.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26459 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:05 pm to
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They may have had hypoxia before they realized something was wrong.


Highly unlikely in a commercial jet with all the safeguards in place.....but I guess it's possible. I suspect that something like that happened to the missing Malaysian jet.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
176266 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:07 pm to
Is there any comfort to be had in actually finding the plane this time?
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30192 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:09 pm to
Maybe not comfort for those involved - But finding the black box and perhaps preventing a similar situation in the future gives me a little comfort.
Posted by bags03
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since May 2004
3023 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:17 pm to
Are there times where it's the arrival airport that reports the missing planes that don't show up? That would be pretty chilling to be the one who notices. The initial Malasia Airlines flight news articles made it seem like the Beijing Airport reported it missing basically when it didn't show up as scheduled.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:19 pm to
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Nothing like reading this breaking story while in flight. A little unnerving for me right now.


Happens in threes.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
89165 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:22 pm to
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Happens in threes.


the curse of modern technology, back in the day when they would show videos of the news on the planes they would make sure to edit out anything bad regarding airliners, such as crashes, hijacks, bomb scares, etc
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