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Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:05 am to EarlyCuyler3
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It's textbook.
Dude, allergy and addiction are two opposing medical problems. This is very basic stuff.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:06 am to LCA131
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Except that he suggests mental illness is by choice?
Would that not be circumstance?
Let me elaborate.
Recreational drug and alcohol use is rampant for those that are homeless by choice (squatters, urban campers, etc).
So, it’s really a combination of the two. Either they were driven ill by the chemical abuse, or, they have an underlying illness/personality disorder which is exacerbated by chemical use.
I’m just saying it’s not pure laziness which puts them on the street.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:06 am to RealityTiger
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But it is still an illness. A common cold is an illness. So why wouldn't that be a mental illness?
You're making the claim that anyone who lives a non traditional lifestyle is mentally ill.
That's just dumb.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:06 am to LCA131
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Except that he suggests mental illness is by choice?
How you twisted that out of a single sentence is baffling. Try again.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:08 am to iwyLSUiwy
Tom Petty line in that picture.
"loves Jesus,
and America too"
"loves Jesus,
and America too"
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:08 am to 632627
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So, it’s really a combination of the two. Either they were driven ill by the chemical abuse, or, they have an underlying illness/personality disorder which is exacerbated by chemical use.
Exactly. It's a chicken or the egg argument. And of those driven by economical reason, how long does it take before some mental illness starts playing a role in deepening the problem. I would guess it would be extremely hard to live on the street and maintain total sanity.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:09 am to EarlyCuyler3
do morbidly obese people also have an allergy to food?
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:09 am to EarlyCuyler3
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And of those driven by economical reason, how long does it take before some mental illness starts playing a role in deepening the problem.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:10 am to Klark Kent
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do morbidly obese people also have an allergy to food?
Is a strawman allergic to straw?
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:11 am to Klark Kent
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do morbidly obese people also have an allergy to food?
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:11 am to EarlyCuyler3
I’m also making the point that there’s a big difference between the war vet holding a sign on a freeway off ramp and the gutter rats that travel in packs, almost like gangs.
The gutter rats that (homeless by choice) are the ones that harass people, steal from local businesses, etc. They are a true nuisance to society.
The gutter rats that (homeless by choice) are the ones that harass people, steal from local businesses, etc. They are a true nuisance to society.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:15 am to EarlyCuyler3
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How you twisted that out of a single sentence is baffling. Try again.
Because the sentence was poorly written. In his subsequent post he stated the idea much more clearly.
I didn't "twist" anything. I take words at face value.
frick face.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:17 am to LCA131
The mental illness isn't by choice. The response to it is. The response is choosing to live that way. And the reason they choose to live that way (the response) is because of the mental illness they have.
And by mental illness, that doesn't necessarily mean that they need to be locked up in a padded room somewhere, by the way. It can be just a warped way of looking at things in life. Like more warped than normal.
And by mental illness, that doesn't necessarily mean that they need to be locked up in a padded room somewhere, by the way. It can be just a warped way of looking at things in life. Like more warped than normal.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:18 am to Klark Kent
quote:No, but they do have a mental illness. It's called food addiction.
do morbidly obese people also have an allergy to food?
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:19 am to RealityTiger
correct
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
Living on the street and trespassing on somebody's property is not simply a "non traditional lifestyle". If you think that's all it is, then you are mentally ill.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:26 am to LCA131
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frick face
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:27 am to RealityTiger
I think he's pretty well abandoned ship at this point. 
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:32 am to RealityTiger
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Living on the street and trespassing on somebody's property is not simply a "non traditional lifestyle".
It absolutely is.
It's public property most are trespassing upon btw: They're given permission in most cases so I don't think it's even trespassing for many.
Hell, many sleep in their own vehicles or crash at other people's homes.
The overwhelming majority of homeless are in that condition for a temporary period of time.
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