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re: Photo of bridge pilings I10 @ San Jacinto river
Posted on 9/21/19 at 11:03 am to Bigfishchoupique
Posted on 9/21/19 at 11:03 am to Bigfishchoupique
If you look on google earth they have Dolphins on the Northwest side of the bridge and the fleet is north of that. The loose barges took out a couple of those dolphins before taking out the bridge
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Posted on 9/21/19 at 12:04 pm to Bedhog
Flexseal
Posted on 9/21/19 at 12:12 pm to tankyank13
This is the same cap that got hit a few months ago LOL. You can see the repair collars and framework. Can't believe that cap is cantilevering like that.
Its going to need some temporary bents to get the girders jacked back up to proper elevation. Should be an interesting fix.
Its going to need some temporary bents to get the girders jacked back up to proper elevation. Should be an interesting fix.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 12:55 pm to Bedhog
It’s gonna take longer than a minute
Posted on 9/21/19 at 12:58 pm to Bedhog
John Bel Edwards will take credit for stopping folks moving to Houston.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 1:05 pm to fightin tigers
quote:good thing you don’t have to worry about that on 20
I'd risk my life driving across that bridge rather than drive through Bastrop
Posted on 9/21/19 at 1:55 pm to Bedhog
Some Flex Seal will fix that right up.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 2:16 pm to fightin tigers
Why would you go through Bastrop
Posted on 9/21/19 at 2:31 pm to JusTrollin
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This is the same cap that got hit a few months ago LOL. You can see the repair collars and framework. Can't believe that cap is cantilevering like that.
Its going to need some temporary bents to get the girders jacked back up to proper elevation. Should be an interesting fix.
Close the section of bridge. Removed the damage parts and throw up some temporary structure like what they did for the east span of twins span bridge after Katrina while new piles and span(s) are being built. Then put them in place. Texas should be be able to handle that.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 3:26 pm to WeeWee
Katrina didn’t damage the pilings, this is a completely different scenario.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 4:05 pm to threeputtforbogie
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Katrina didn’t damage the pilings, this is a completely different scenario.
Lol exactly
What the hell is that dude talking about?
Posted on 9/21/19 at 4:26 pm to threeputtforbogie
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Close the section of bridge. Removed the damage parts and throw up some temporary structure like what they did for the east span of twins span bridge after Katrina while new piles and span(s) are being built. Then put them in place. Texas should be be able to handle that.
Huh?
This post was edited on 9/21/19 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 9/21/19 at 4:47 pm to Bedhog
They have to get those barges out and that's not going to be easy. They will probably do some more damage getting them out. I think they will have to remove the deck section, set new piles and then put it back in place.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 4:52 pm to CHEDBALLZ
One of the loaded barges are beached on a mud flat and as the water recedes it’s just going to make things more difficult.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 4:56 pm to Bedhog
Tilman Fertitta has a decision. Does he donate to fix the bridge?
Posted on 9/21/19 at 4:57 pm to Bedhog
Oh boy! 3 month closure coming up
Posted on 9/21/19 at 5:01 pm to threeputtforbogie
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Katrina didn’t damage the pilings, this is a completely different scenario.
True but this is almost the exact scenario that the designers of the LPC had in mind when they left spare parts out in the lake? They knew the bridge was going to get hit sooner or later and they left spare parts so that all they had to was remove the bridge deck, drive new piles, put a new pile cap on, and put the bridge deck back on and the bridge would be back open in a few days.
If they do not have spare parts ready to go like the LPC does, can't they just remove the bridge deck segments on both sides of the destroyed pilings set them on barges and set them aside. Then throw up a temporary bridge that spans the distance where both deck segments and anchor it on the ends of the bridge that where not hit by the barge until the spare parts are manufactured. Then when the new pilings and pile caps are manufactured, remove the temporary bridge deck, drive new pilings to replace the damaged pilings, install the new pile cap, and finally set the spans back on top.
The more important question to me is not how to fix the bridge, but how to protect the bridge? If this is the second time that the bridge has sustained major damage from getting hit by a barge in the last few months then Tx might want build a better barrier around the bridge pilings.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 5:10 pm to WeeWee
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but how to protect the bridge? If this is the second time that the bridge has sustained major damage from getting hit by a barge i
They have dolphins north of the the bridge but these loose barges rolled right through them in this case. There isn’t much they could have done to protect the bridge
The problem is, they need to secure the barges better in the fleet and they should have has fleet boats standing by downstream of the fleet, they should have had multiple boats on the fleet.
Problem is, you have to have a retractable pilothouse to get under that bridge to get to the fleet and there just aren’t that many of those boats available. I looked on AIS and there was only 2 retractables on the north side of the bridge at the time of the incident. That’s not nearly enough
Posted on 9/21/19 at 5:50 pm to tgrbaitn08
Time for a high rise and with a wider arch or opening. Texas has a lot of fracking money.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 6:44 pm to tgrbaitn08
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They have dolphins north of the the bridge but these loose barges rolled right through them in this case. There isn’t much they could have done to protect the bridge
The problem is, they need to secure the barges better in the fleet and they should have has fleet boats standing by downstream of the fleet, they should have had multiple boats on the fleet.
Problem is, you have to have a retractable pilothouse to get under that bridge to get to the fleet and there just aren’t that many of those boats available. I looked on AIS and there was only 2 retractables on the north side of the bridge at the time of the incident. That’s not nearly enough
If they cannot find a better way to protect the bridge then they need to bite to bullet and replace the bridge with a different type of bridge like a cable stay, an arch bridge or any type of bridge where the piers are not in the water. I-10 at that location is too important of a travel corridor (especially during a natural disaster) for it to be shutdown for an extended period of time because a barge broke loose.
Now would be a good time to do it to because you can pull a Louisiana and get the feds to fast track it and pay for it like they did the twin spans bridge in NOLA after Katrina since it was part of a natural disaster. If I was a Houston commuter I would be emailing and calling my representatives everyday while I am stuck in the cluster f**k that is going to be the detur caused from that.
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