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re: Pfizer efficacy not even 50% after 6 months
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:09 am to Klark Kent
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:09 am to Klark Kent
quote:Where did I say that I was referring to you at all? No need to get defensive, I was referring to the collective "you", as in the people who melting about this situation. And specifically the person in this thread who said that this is dominating his life because he will have to choose between getting vaccinated or losing his job.
that's your retort? weak.
link to where i've done or supported anything of the sort?
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Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:11 am to Klark Kent
quote:Crying about it on a message board isn't going to convince anyone at your place of employment that you shouldn't have to get the vaccine. Again, I'm not referring directly to you.
clearly you do if you don't think people should question unnecessary mandates that are clearly overkill considering the risk.
just do what your told! safety! follow the science! we're all in this together! right?
This shite is like politics or religion to a lot of you folks, there is no nuance there. You are either with us or against us!
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:17 am to Epic Cajun
There is no nuance to forced vaccination. Stop being a pussy and just say you're cool with it. People will hate you but at least you won't be seen as a vagina afraid to state his beliefs.
BTW, some of us are in a position to inform the decision on whether to require vaccination for employment or continued employment. Guess what my company doesn't require. But keep being the "I don't agree with mandates, but" guy. That guy always gets things done.
BTW, some of us are in a position to inform the decision on whether to require vaccination for employment or continued employment. Guess what my company doesn't require. But keep being the "I don't agree with mandates, but" guy. That guy always gets things done.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:21 am to GRTiger
quote:I don't think the government should be able to force it, but I think that private companies should be able to. That doesn't mean that I even agree with them forcing it, but I think they should lawfully be able to. I didn't get it until it was required by some of my clients. The same shite happens with the flu shot. I don't typically get it, but if I'm forced to for a client visit I'm not going to fricking cry about it.
There is no nuance to forced vaccination. Stop being a pussy and just say you're cool with it. People will hate you but at least you won't be seen as a vagina afraid to state his beliefs.
quote:Okay? Then apparently I'm not talking about you. I'm referring to the guy earlier in the thread who is melting because he's going to have to choose between his desire to not get the vaccine and his job.
BTW, some of us are in a position to inform the decision on whether to require vaccination for employment or continued employment. Guess what my company doesn't require. .
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:23 am to Obtuse1
quote:
'vaccine effectiveness' and 'vaccine efficacy'?".
Well, I believe they have certainly supported efficacy via this study and multiple others. The Pfizer vaccine does produce a desired result. As to effectiveness, that is really a bit more subjective. I would suggest just based on this article it is effective, to what degree is the real question. But, unlike some have suggestion, I would not suggest the effectiveness to be zero or pointless. If you decide to get the vaccine, it will provide you a measure of protection six months out and beyond. I just do not think anyone can tell you with any certainty what the long-term effectiveness is because we have not had longitudinal studies on the treatment.
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 10:24 am
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:24 am to TDTOM
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I thought it was supposed to be 95%?
Wow, you are ill-informed. 95% was the number before Delta and in the immediate aftermath of receiving the vaccine. It’s surprising that you thought it would be 95% forever.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:26 am to GRTiger
Sweden just banned Moderna for those under the age of 30.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:28 am to Dr Lecter
quote:
Weren’t you big into the Q thread??
I in fact don't believe I ever posted in it once nor ever read it, perhaps your brain is addled by a lack of oxygen from from myocarditis or spike protein brain fog.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:29 am to Penrod
No vaccine will keep its effectiveness long-term, even MMRs needed 7 year boosters typically. This vaccine is no different that all others, just the question is how effective for how long.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:44 am to Cosmo
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Do you wake up in the morning and immediately google “vaccine?”
I've seen your posts and from what I gather, you have M.D. behind your name.
Question: At what point will you come to the realization that you were complicit in killing off your patients and/or complicit in having your patients go through the remainder of their lives with terrible, life-altering side effects? Seriously, how much more evidence do you need that these "treatments" are not doing anything? You have zero longitudinal studies and the more time that ticks away, the shittier and stickier this whole shitshow gets.
You, like many MDs, appear have this sort of superiority complex that allows you to get this sort of "self-important status" - your whole self-important status is based on so many fallacies.
That statement above is exactly what is preventing you and all the other self-important doctors out there from having self-reflection and true internal dialogue to be able to determine you all were duped. The thing is, you can't. You can't ever get to that level because if you begin questioning your methods and practices with your patients about this, if you begin questioning that letter you received from your boards to hush up all the concerns from your patients regarding Covid, you have to begin questioning things like: 1) was I really duped? 2) Am I really that easily manipulated? and so on and so forth.
You can't. You just can't because the second you start to waiver in your stances, that means you have to face the reality that you were manipulated, lied to, and simply used like a bitch puppet with a white coat on. But you see, there's no way you could have been lied to and manipulated....you're a very important doctor, super smart, and you'd be able to smell a salesy pitch coming from a mile away, right? Yep, cause you're a doctor.
I imagine in a few more months, when the evidence can no longer be hidden and it's getting to difficult to silence the deaths and adverse reactions from this shite, you're going to see many doctors suicide themselves....and not like the Clinton kind.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:47 am to FreddieMac
quote:
I am not sure the OP and others are reading the article in an unbias manner.
LOL!!!
Why would anyone do that?!?
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:48 am to GeorgeQGlass
quote:
Question: At what point will you come to the realization that you were complicit in killing off your patients and/or complicit in having your patients go through the remainder of their lives with terrible, life-altering side effects? Seriously, how much more evidence do you need that these "treatments" are not doing anything? You have zero longitudinal studies and the more time that ticks away, the shittier and stickier this whole shitshow gets.
You, like many MDs, appear have this sort of superiority complex that allows you to get this sort of "self-important status" - your whole self-important status is based on so many fallacies.
That statement above is exactly what is preventing you and all the other self-important doctors out there from having self-reflection and true internal dialogue to be able to determine you all were duped. The thing is, you can't. You can't ever get to that level because if you begin questioning your methods and practices with your patients about this, if you begin questioning that letter you received from your boards to hush up all the concerns from your patients regarding Covid, you have to begin questioning things like: 1) was I really duped? 2) Am I really that easily manipulated? and so on and so forth.
You can't. You just can't because the second you start to waiver in your stances, that means you have to face the reality that you were manipulated, lied to, and simply used like a bitch puppet with a white coat on. But you see, there's no way you could have been lied to and manipulated....you're a very important doctor, super smart, and you'd be able to smell a salesy pitch coming from a mile away, right? Yep, cause you're a doctor.
I imagine in a few more months, when the evidence can no longer be hidden and it's getting to difficult to silence the deaths and adverse reactions from this shite, you're going to see many doctors suicide themselves....and not like the Clinton kind.
What an unhinged melt.
If you're serious and your theory is that there's a massive conspiracy to cover up a large number of deaths and debilitating effects caused by the vaccine, I'm going to need some proof.
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 10:51 am
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:51 am to Tigerpaw123
quote:
Great source you cited
this isnt some secret. The vaccines wear off, not much of a vaccine if you ask me.
Denying this just means you are uninformed, but thats exactly where the government wants you. Congrats, you are a sheep.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:56 am to rondo
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Aren't you frickers sick of threads about Vid and Vaccines?
Jesus christ.
Well as long as there is covid and vaccine passports in our state, you will continue to hear about it.
It is like the teachers fricking students, if they stopped fricking their students, there woudnt be threads about it.
If women stopped posing half naked with their tits there would be no more babe threads.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 10:58 am to dgnx6
quote:Almost all vaccines wear off;however, what keeps the virus at bay once you age and lose the vaccine protection is the heavy majority of youth taking the vaccine and getting herd immunity…..
The vaccines wear off, not much of a vaccine if you ask me.
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 11:00 am
Posted on 10/6/21 at 11:02 am to Ingeniero
quote:
What an unhinged melt.
Only to the people who don't have self-reflection abilities.
A great many people in society cannot stand to be challenged because it makes people uncomfortable. People hate being uncomfortable, but the only way to get to the next level is to challenge yourself.
I have yet to see any significant data to refute what Malone and Geert have to say....and it's interesting there are many virologist, epidemiologists, molecular biologists that are saying the exact opposite of what "mainstream media science" is pumping and yet they're told "no, not that science, THIS science."
The truth will eventually come out and unfortunately, a lot of basic bitch doctors are going to have to face the harsh reality that 1) they killed off or made their patients worse off 2) they were lied to and they fell for it.
Continue on defending this tyrannical overreach and keep pretending it's "for your safety"
But you go on and do you. I'll catch y'all on the flip side in a few years after this shite quells down and perhaps after the Nuremburg trials 2.0
These "movement passports" are only the beginning, but keep cheering for it and pretending it's for safety and not at all a primer for the next level boss. How the frick can't y'all see that this was never for your safety, it was all about control, and the clown show will only get even clownier in the next coming years.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 11:03 am to GeorgeQGlass
quote:
GeorgeQGlass
This is a quality melt. Are you getting warmed up for your entrance to the SEC? You'll fit right in.
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 11:05 am
Posted on 10/6/21 at 11:10 am to lsupride87
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Almost all vaccines wear off;however, what keeps the virus at bay once you age and lose the vaccine protection is the heavy majority of youth taking the vaccine and getting herd immunity…..
So, let's say we hypothetically reach 100% vax status and you STILL see cases. What then? How many boosters will we need to continue on?
At what point will you vax lovers realize that this shite is endemic and we need to live and let live? You will never eradicate it. It is here to stay and in lieu of doing shite like movement licenses and mandating vaccines, perhaps treating this like a cold, you know.....like almost all of Scandinavia and shifting the conversation to "root causes." But I get it, that's too much. The fatties and the unhealthy would rather take a pill or take a jab than actually fix the body and gut issues because unlike the jab and pills, that's actual work that needs to be put in and your fat hand needs to drop the burger and sugar-filled food.
You know, there's also a real-time experiment going on to see what places look like with almost full vax status....Israel. Hmmm, wonder how they're doing?
Posted on 10/6/21 at 11:11 am to Penrod
quote:
It’s surprising that you thought it would be 95% forever.
Not really considering it was at least 4-6 months after the 1st people had taken the vaccine (also after Delta was the dominant strain) that Joe Biden and the CDC said that if you had the vaccine you didn't have to worry about getting COVID.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 11:13 am to Ingeniero
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complicit in having your patients go through the remainder of their lives with terrible, life-altering side effects
We've got less than 1 year of data on the vaccine in the general population with very few long term side effects attributed to the vaccine.
That doesn't mean there won't be as time passes but it also doesn't mean that there absolutely will be.
So how in the hell can you make that statement?
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