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re: Personal injury fraud ring is hitting the news.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:27 am to Saskwatch
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:27 am to Saskwatch
I’ve been seeing more and more strip shopping centers with pi lawyers and chiropractors set up to next each other. If that doesn’t tell you what a pile of schysters these characters are nothing will. I also agree, the doctors need their feet held to the fire just as much for this unethical behavior. It’s brazen and right there in the open, the fact that there isn’t more outrage is appalling.
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:29 am to Verbal Kent
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Good people get hurt and deserve compensation. If insurance companies were fair, then most people would not need plaintiff lawyers. But insurance companies are not fair. They are profit first businesses. Do not feel sorry for them.
They didn't get this way on their own. Insurance companies aren't innocent, but the main reason legitimate claims get denied are because of the frivolous stuff that is filed all the time.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:36 am to TJG210
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I also agree, the doctors need their feet held to the fire just as much for this unethical behavior
Not only for the previously described behavior, but medical billing is out of control. When medical offices are accepting 15%-25% of what's stated on a bill for full payment then that should be a big red flag.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:44 am to slackster
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the main reason legitimate claims get denied almost all of the time are because of the frivolous stuff that is filed some of the time.
Fixed
Jaded, cynical over-worked, battle-axe adjusters are the gate keepers for padding insurance company profits.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:45 am to BamaTiger00
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But when a single firm gets a dozen+ cases, all with different plaintiffs but virtually the same mysterious facts involving these 18 wheelers, it should put any reasonable attorney on notice that something isn't right.
This^. At some point the whole "I'm just representing my client" plausible deniability bullshite just gets silly. That being said, assuming everything alleged is 100% true and this is all a giant fraud collaboration between plaintiff/lawyer/doctor/ etc., would your average Orleans Parish jury even care?
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:52 am to DevilDagNS
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would your average Orleans Parish jury even care?
ultimately the answer to that question will alawys thwart "tort reform"
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:02 am to The Torch
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A friend of mine hit a car merging lanes at less than 10 mph, at the scene all was good and they traded insurance with the understanding my buddy would have the other guys car fixed.
A month later he is hit with five personal injury lawsuits @ 10K each, every passenger in the car had some mystery injury.
I have heard of a few of these lately. Everyone needs to get a police report and record scene with Cell Phone.
One friend hit someone that was by themselves. No big deal. Then gets a claim from driver and four other people for conveniently the max on his insurance.
We are reaching the point in Louisiana where we all need recorders in our cars like Russia and all those other shitty countries.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 11:14 am to Demshoes
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That shite happens no doubt but I happen to know an attorney whose client got in a wreck with an 18-wheeler and she sent the client for an MRI, which was normal. She settled the case for a minimal amount. More often than not, you have a great damages case with little insurance, or a crap damages case with millions in coverage. That's why not every damn plaintiff attorney is OT wealthy.
Stop with the generalizations.
The numbers don't lie. PI attorneys are killing it in Louisiana. The reason not every plaintiff attorney is OT wealthy is because there are too many attorneys in this state. Law School was/is way overbought.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:07 pm to lsu13lsu
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A friend of mine hit a car merging lanes at less than 10 mph, at the scene all was good and they traded insurance with the understanding my buddy would have the other guys car fixed.
A month later he is hit with five personal injury lawsuits @ 10K each, every passenger in the car had some mystery injury.
This is why you ALWAYS call the police. Even if you think it is your fault and even if you might get a ticket.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:13 pm to Slippy
Crooked Doctors and Ambulance chasing Lawyers? In Louisiana?
Get out of here...
Get out of here...
Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:53 pm to Dizz
I was wondering when this was going to hit the news. 
A dangerous combination of arrogance and greed.
And this isn’t about the standard PI car crash cases and the varying opinions thereon, this involves a very pronounced and complex rigged scheme that could have significant consequences to those involved, and deservedly so if true.
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I am assuming the King Firm will say they simply relied on what their clients told them and no idea that the accident was staged basically, head in the sand. I guess they had to feed that ad budget.
They had a pretty decent practice why would they risk something like this.
A dangerous combination of arrogance and greed.
And this isn’t about the standard PI car crash cases and the varying opinions thereon, this involves a very pronounced and complex rigged scheme that could have significant consequences to those involved, and deservedly so if true.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 2:01 pm to Havoc
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And this isn’t about the standard PI car crash cases and the varying opinions thereon, this involves a very pronounced and complex rigged scheme that could have significant consequences to those involved, and deservedly so if true.
They have handed down federal indictments on some dirty doctors and lawyers involved in a kickback scheme for auto accident patients in South Florida. It also involved tow truck drivers who would solicit the business for the lawyers. Mail fraud, wire fraud etc. Mother frickers are going to jail. It's pretty awesome. Clean up the system
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 2:14 pm to Saskwatch
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and then the AG to do the prosecuting,
The AG went to law school with a few of the main ones involved and worked at the same law firm (a defense firm) as one of them for a few years. Wonder how that would play out. I couldn’t say he was buddies with him/them but certainly knew each other fairly well.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 2:17 pm to Snipe
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Crooked Doctors and Ambulance chasing Lawyers? In Louisiana?
Add politicians and that's the LA trifecta
Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:15 pm to lsu13lsu
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Everyone needs to get a police report and record scene with Cell Phone. One friend hit someone that was by themselves. No big deal. Then gets a claim from driver and four other people for conveniently the max on his insurance. We are reaching the point in Louisiana where we all need recorders in our cars like Russia and all those other shitty countries.
A coworker is married to a doctor and has a high limit auto policy. She bumped the car in front of her in stop-n-go traffic. Lady and one kid in the car, no damage even to bumper, and no police report.
My coworker has been fighting a suit for almost a year now. The woman and four children allegedly in the car are demanding $1,000,000. Depositions, etc. and it's still dragging on. Plaintiff has folks lined up claiming that the plaintiff drove their kids to school. Orleans CDC, and they are not budging. Lots of preexisting medical issues that they claim were aggravated.
I personally have been hit with two bogus claims, which the insurance company settled.
My coworker and I both have dash cams now.
For my family of 4 drivers we pay over $17,000/year in car insurance on 4 cars (the "at-fault" accidents were over 4 years ago and have rolled off).
Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:59 pm to Slippy
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You people are so naive.
Every 18 wheeler or commercial vehicle on the road has at least a million dollars in liability coverage. If a greedy, unscrupulous plaintiff lawyer gets that case, there is NO WAY he is letting it go for soft tissue money. There is NO WAY he is settling it before filing suit. (Contingency goes up from 33% to 40% once suit is filed.)
You have to "work it up." You send him to the shake and bake doctor for a few months. No better? Well let's get some MRI's. Considering the fact that most adults over the age of 25 have some sort of disc pathology anyway, they will find a herniation or a bulge of something, which the plaintiff-friendly doctor will causally attribute to the accident.
Now it's time to start the money train rolling. Let's get some facet injections, maybe epidurals, maybe a more invasive diagnostic test like a discogram. And here comes the inevitable surgical recommendation. This man needs a fusion!
And when an attorney tells a client, "Hey, if you get the surgery, the value of your case triples," most will jump at the deal. "I just settled a neck surgery case for $750,000! Do you have any lost wages? We can send you to a voc rehab expert, and get the total value of the claim up over a million."
This is the ORDINARY COURSE OF THINGS. I see it every fricking day. I have at least 40 pending cases where that exact same scenario has played out.
No, it's not the insurance companies' fault. If you think that, you are are on team plaintiff, or you are a fricking idiot.
This guy gets it.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:02 pm to Joseph Bockrath
First things first....chiropractors are not "doctors".....
Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:02 pm to Slippy
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Personal injury fraud ring
Idiots like this cause everyone’s auto rates to increase. We all pay for these idiots when they do this BS and get away with it. Put them under the jail
Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:09 pm to Slippy
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This is the ORDINARY COURSE OF THINGS. I see it every fricking day. I have at least 40 pending cases where that exact same scenario has played out.
No, it's not the insurance companies' fault. If you think that, you are are on team plaintiff, or you are a fricking idiot.
bullshite. Insurance companies offering $2,500 on rear end legit surgery cause lawsuits to be filed. The insurance company holds their money as long as possible because of the return on their huge conglomerate investments. State Farm, Allstate, GEICO, Progressive. Now they're all doing it. Don't forget, premiums are alway coming in. Frick big insurance.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:09 pm to RebelExpress38
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Idiots like this cause everyone’s auto rates to increase
Many in this thread feel as though the premium raises are just insurance companies wanting to punish innocent auto policy holders and increase profit margin.
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