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re: Per request: cycling deaths are on the rise in the US

Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:25 am to
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:25 am to
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It's a fricking speed LIMIT, not a goddamn speed minimum.


Incorrect, most (or many) roads also have a minimum.

For example, Low speed vehicles (registered golf carts) are not allowed on roads over 35mph.

Would you have an issue with this same law with bicycles?

Its almost as dangerous for someone to go under the speed limit drastically as it is for someone to go over.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:27 am to




Posted by LSUWoodworker
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:28 am to
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MorbidTheClown


shite!~ Reincarnation if true, I want to be her bicycle seat.
Posted by canyon
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:29 am to
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For example, Low speed vehicles (registered golf carts) are not allowed on roads over 35mph.


Not nearly the same. At all. In most states, has to do with the size of the engine, carts, mini bikes, etc. Bicycles are exempt from this, as there are no motors/engines on them.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:29 am to
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It's a fricking speed LIMIT, not a goddamn speed minimum.


You can be ticketed for impeding the flow of traffic, so that's not really the point you think it is.

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B. Except when a special hazard exists that requires lower speed for compliance with paragraph A of this section, no person shall operate or drive a motor vehicle upon the highways of this state at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic.
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:29 am to
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For example, Low speed vehicles (registered golf carts) are not allowed on roads over 35mph.


Sounds like they need better lobbyists.

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Would you have an issue with this same law with bicycles?


Yeah. Absolutely. And if you do have a problem with that, you're stupid.

Let's say we ban bikes from all roads. How do people that can't afford cars or bikes going to get to work? Would you prefer to pay the taxes needed to put bus stops and bus routes within 2 miles of every poor address in the country?

Just let them ride their bikes and pay attention to the fricking road when you drive.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 9:30 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:30 am to
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Except when a special hazard exists that requires lower speed for compliance with paragraph A of this section, no person shall operate or drive a motor vehicle upon the highways of this state at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic.
Posted by canyon
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:31 am to
Motor vehicle. oh, and for the most part, bicycles are forbidden on major highways or interstates, unless otherwise noted. In Colorado, cyclists can (if they have a death wish) ride on certain parts of I-70 and major highways with restrictions, i.e. stay as far right on the shoulder as possible.
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:32 am to
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:32 am to
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Would you have an issue with this same law with bicycles?


Yeah. Absolutely. And if you do have a problem with that, you're stupid.

Let's say we ban bikes from all roads. How do people that can't afford cars or bikes going to get to work? Would you prefer to pay the taxes needed to put bus stops and bus routes within 2 miles of every poor address in the country?


Well bikes aren't allowed on Interstates right? I don't see why they are allowed on any road over 55mph honestly.

I'd have no issue making a legit bike path on some roads and paying more taxes for it, as in a large lane outside of the median not inside the median next to the fricking cars.

I'm not against bikes, I'm against mixing bikes and vehicles.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:32 am to
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In Colorado, cyclists can (if they have a death wish) ride on certain parts of I-70 and major highways with restrictions, i.e. stay as far right on the shoulder as possible.


I would not say the shoulder is ON the highway
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:33 am to
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Not nearly the same. At all. In most states, has to do with the size of the engine, carts, mini bikes, etc. Bicycles are exempt from this, as there are no motors/engines on them.


Because that makes all kinds of sense? Why are you okay with not allowing a mini bike going 25mph on a road but allowing a bike rider?

Not everyone can afford a car and all right?
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:34 am to
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Motor vehicle. oh, and for the most part, bicycles are forbidden on major highways or interstates, unless otherwise noted.
Trust me. The number of cyclists that want to ride on an active interstate is pretty damn close to zero.
Posted by canyon
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:34 am to
LOL ok man.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:35 am to
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LOL ok man.


A shoulder isn't a travel lane.
Posted by concrete_tiger
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:35 am to
We live on a 2 lane country road that the spandex mafia love to use every weekend. These are huge groups of dozens of riders. It wouldn't be such a problem if they would observe some traffic laws and have some courtesy.

Stop signs are for you, too. All too often, they'll even post a guy to frick you at a traffic light or 4 way stop.

If there is more than 1 car behind you, and certainly when it's 5 or more... fricking pull over or accommodate passing. These roads are curvy and there are NO passing lanes or zones.

That's pretty much it. The other stuff is mostly inconsequential.
Posted by canyon
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:37 am to
This thread, as usual with cycling threads, has turned into a shitshow. You want to ride a mini bike going 25 get after it. Once again, it is ILLEGAL (in most states for a MOTORIZED vehicle/mini bike/cart/mower/wheelchair/whatever the frick else to go that slow. Bicycles are exempt from that. I got nothing else.
Posted by canyon
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:38 am to
But it is part of the fricking interstate system. FFS, how obtuse are you?
Posted by OldCat55
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:39 am to
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I was riding my bike to the local coffee shop


These type comments about bike riding to a location as a mode of transportation serve to remind me how very different my rural world is from town/city life. My closest bike ride to a coffee shop would be around 13 miles.

Bikes are not true transportation options in my area. It’s no longer safe for kids to bike on rural roads around here because of how fast people are driving.

Sometimes large groups of cyclists come out and ride the country roads. They can be a nuisance if you are trying to get somewhere in a hurry and happen to come up behind them in a curvy section of road. However, I can respect their desire to ride out in the green spaces and know to be careful when I spot the first helmet wearing rider.

Edit: I can say some groups are using cars to follow them with their emergency lights flashing. This helps a lot. We respect those follow vehicles at all times due to the constant farm vehicle traffic that uses them. We have trail riders in wagons and on horses occasionally. They announce their rides in the community in advance and have a flasher setup on the last wagon.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 9:48 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:40 am to
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But it is part of the fricking interstate system. FFS, how obtuse are you?




No more than the median. If you aren't in the traffic, you aren't on the road. It's a pretty big distinction. Can you cite the law that says bikes can be actually in travel lanes of interstates?
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