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re: People who graduated college around the Recession

Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:15 pm to
If you graduated in an energy field during the great resession , you would have been golden. Now ? Not so much

ETA: looks like people are giving their life story here! Ok. I'm game.

Graduated Chem-E & Chemistry in 2007. Went to work for the same oilfield service company I did two internships with. Here comes 2008-2012. My compensation rocketed up with the industry . Was making more than I thought I'd be making. Saved a bunch as I lived with my dad until I was 27. Crash hits. I'm still with the same company, but now my pay is less than what I should be at. The way it goes I guess. Things have stabilized , but I wonder what the future in oil is. We seem to be moving into more technology and less energy.

During that time mentioned above, got a house, wife, and two girls (not wearing lab gloves in the lab apparently zapped my Y's).
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37049 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:16 pm to
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Ramen Noodles and Tostinos pizza twice a day was a reality. People talk about being that poor, but it really was true and it sucked.

I definitely lived that life for about a year and a half after I graduated undergrad.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60652 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:17 pm to
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amen Noodles and Tostinos pizza twice a day was a reality. People talk about being that poor, but it really was true and it sucked.
makes me feel lucky
Posted by whodatdude
Member since Feb 2011
1493 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:17 pm to
Grad in 09. Applied to 100+ jobs before finding one.

Signed on with a company in 2010 and didn't even want to look for a few years due to finally having stability, even though pay was low.
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49477 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:21 pm to
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I would urge student that IF they go to college, find something like engineering. BS in Business, communications, sociology is pretty worthless IMO


This! I have a degree in political science. My career has zero to do with my degree and I've gotten where I'm at by working extremely hard, connections and some good luck. Don't care what anyone says, we all need a little good luck for things to go our way.

Little brother is about to graduate high school and has no idea what he wants to do, but it probably is NOT engineering or nursing. So with that said, I've had a lot of serious talks with him about looking at trades i.e. Plumbing, electrician, etc. because a generic college degree is pretty worthless anymore.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40333 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:21 pm to
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Applied to 100+ jobs before finding one


I applied for 100000x on my last job search. Probably 15 that I was right for or overqualified for.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 2:22 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60652 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:24 pm to
i applied to about 100. heard back from maybe 10. started the interview process with 3 or 4. went all the way with one.

and i was basically just trolling job boards and lsu career services.
Posted by sloopy
Member since Aug 2009
6907 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:25 pm to
Graduated in 09, applied for what seemed like 100 jobs and found a shitty job. Went back in 11 for a graduate degree and I'm currently in a field I truly love. I'm content at my current job, but know I will be moving back to south Louisiana next summer. I'm definitely not looking forward to job searching once again...
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60652 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:28 pm to
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Little brother is about to graduate high school and has no idea what he wants to do, but it probably is NOT engineering or nursing. So with that said, I've had a lot of serious talks with him about looking at trades i.e. Plumbing, electrician, etc. because a generic college degree is pretty worthless anymore.
accounting is arguably a more "sure thing" than some engineering disciplines
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29875 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:29 pm to
I graduated in 2008 with a landscape architecture degree from the top program in the nation. Half of our class couldn't find jobs. The half of the half that found jobs were laid off six months in. I lucked out by staying in LA where there was still a ton of Katrina money being thrown around.
Posted by LG2BAMA
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1254 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:29 pm to
I graduated in December 09.
Economics degree with average grades.
Took me about 3 months to get my first real job which was at enterprise rent a car making around 28k a year. As much as I hated to admit it I soon realized that going into sales would be the only way I'd ever make the money I felt I should be. been in insurance/financial sales since. It's been a tough arse road to go down.

Ive never had much sympathy for anyone when it comes to money and jobs coming out of school.

the positive thing is growing up I never had a desire to be my own boss. Just always thought I'd get some great job and live a good life. That never happend so it kinda forced me into eventualy running my own business. I'd never dream of ever working for someone again.

I have a 2008 Tacoma with 240k miles on it and I can't fathom the idea of buying a new vehicle. I'm almost to the point of insanity when it comes to saving and investing money.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:33 pm to
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Grad in 09. Applied to 100+ jobs before finding one.


I know how this feels (it is what I am known for on here).

I do appreciate people being honest about their situations because it helps me realize how many people are having these problems.

I think the problem is that ALOT of companies (small and large) just do not want to train people anymore. They push all that responsibility on college (which is supposed to educate, not train for Company A's one specific job). It makes matters worse in that internships are very limited, so finding relevant while in school is tough.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
18198 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:33 pm to
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So with that said, I've had a lot of serious talks with him about looking at trades i.e. Plumbing, electrician, etc. because a generic college degree is pretty worthless anymore.


The cold hard truth. Had a lot of friends graduate with business degrees (MGMT, Marketing, etc.) The only ones with decent jobs right out of college were Finance and Accounting. Bus degrees are shite unless paired with a law or accounting masters. MBAs aren't worth the price now.
Posted by StTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3177 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:33 pm to
Graduated in '11 with a humanities degree and eventually got a shite job, not in my field, that I hated.

Quit much later and took on debt to get another degree in a more secure field and found a job I love and have no intention of leaving.

I watch what I spend, but not afraid to take risks so I invest where I can, but it wouldn't ruin me if I lost all of it.
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49477 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:34 pm to
Yup. The degrees that are more of a "sure thing" (nursing, teaching, engineering, accounting) are things he's just not interested in or very good at. Granted he has no clue in general, but he is very smart, honest and a hard worker. So that's why I think he could do well in a trade because so many of those guys are idiots, despite knowing their trade, but suck at operating a business. I say this amidst building a house, and I'm often stupefied by the antics that subs pull.

Combine smarts, good work ethic, good people/communication skills, and mastering a trade? You will do better than most with a college degree.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20883 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:37 pm to
I graduated in December of 2007, so right before the recession hit.

I got a high school teaching job at my alma mater in January of 2008, so pretty much immediately out of school. It's one of the only reasons why I was glad to be a teacher. While a friend of mine was desperately applying to marketing firms and graphic design firms that were experiencing huge layoffs, I was one step closer to job security for life. My salary was right around his starting salary as well.

Now, the real issue came from advice from my parents. My wife and I lived in a shitty apartment, but it only cost $499/month. We were putting away savings and having a nice honeymoon year. But our parents kept telling us to buy a house. "At worst you'll break even," they said.

Then they offered to match our down payment. We had some savings but not a whole bunch. We ended up putting 5% down on a $179k house. That was at the beginning of 2009. Many of the houses in the neighborhood were on sale for $205k+, so we thought we were getting a steal.

Fast forward three years later, and we didn't like the house or the area anymore. Because you learn a lot about yourself in your twenties. I grew tired of a teaching career and began to search other opportunities. Decided to sell the house.

Best offer we got? $149k and we pay all of the closing costs including the (at the time) 6% realtor fees.

We couldn't sell. We were absolutely stuck in a suburb we didn't like, in a neighborhood we didn't like, and in a house we were growing tired of.

My mindset is pretty grim, honestly. I don't know if I ever want to buy a house again, but I recognize that it's much, much better than renting. Especially now that the housing market has bounced back and rent prices are high.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 2:38 pm
Posted by SouthMSReb
Member since Dec 2013
4742 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:38 pm to
2012 here.

Graduated with a business (finance) degree in June 2012 and started a job in ATL in August 2012. The job itself wasn't great, but the company was probably the best in the business and it was basically a way for me to get my foot in the door of a very niche industry. Got a new job (and current) 2 years later.

I was fortunate to not have to take out student loans so I didn't graduate with any debt, but my parents did immediately take me off their payroll. Medical Insurance, Car Insurance, Cell Phone, Rent, Bills, etc.. A lot of my friends' parents kept them on cell, medical, and others. I was pretty surprised by that actually.

I'm currently saving around 30% of my paycheck. No debt. Paid for a nicer used car with cash about 2 years after graduating. Have a good plan for the future. I'm frugal AF anyway because of how I was raised.

ETA: I graduated with a ~2.7 GPA
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:39 pm to
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recognize that it's much, much better than renting
debatable
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78327 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:42 pm to
What about post 9/11 graduates? Let's say from Fall of 2001 to spring of 2003. That wasn't a great job market either.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20883 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:43 pm to
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debatable


I'd agree with you a few years ago.

We put our house on the rental market in 2013 for $1200/month. It's a pretty far drive (about 35 minutes) to Birmingham city proper. Comps are up to $1450 just four years later.

My wife and I are currently looking to rent closer to Birmingham (Homewood, Vestavia) areas. Same friend I mentioned in the other post rented in Homewood with his girlfriend from 2009 to 2012 for about $1200/month. Nice 3/2. Best we can find for a 3/2 is $1500+ per month.

I can afford $1500/month no problem right now, but if I purchased a home with a $1500/month house note, I'd be living much, much better than the rentals going for the same price. Much better.
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