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re: People that use their kids as an excuse for not completing work obligations
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:50 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:50 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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This isn't near as complicated as many of you are trying to make it out to be.
This also isn't near as dramatic as you are making it out to be.
Really, when was the last time you had time off denied because of someone else's kid? If that happens often (it doesn't) then your workplace is the real problem.
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:51 pm to jchamil
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Seems like she has better negotiating skills than you do
You people are fricking retarded and have no ability to understand context or meanings outside of the literal words
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:52 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You people are fricking retarded and have no ability to understand context or meanings outside of the literal words
That's rich coming from you. You were given a good answer to your questionPosted on 6/3/22 at 2:52 pm to jchamil
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If someone is leaving every day at 2:30 to pick up their kids and still keeping their job, then they must be a valuable employee who gets the job done.
They must be. And if they can make that arrangement with the bosses, more power to them.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:53 pm to LSUBoo
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This also isn't near as dramatic as you are making it out to be.
I've had one specific instance where it was a big problem and not primarily, but as big part, that organization lost 11 people in 6 months.
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Really, when was the last time you had time off denied because of someone else's kid?
See above
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:53 pm to Slagathor
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continued unplanned absences
A problem whether you have children or not.
Just comes down to not abusing the system, IMO.
So thank god our daycare never closed during covid, but there were times we were forced to quarantine. That was happening with a child or without.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:53 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I've had one specific instance where it was a big problem and not primarily, but as big part, that organization lost 11 people in 6 months
if you were one of the 11, you solved the problem
if not, LOL
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:54 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
So, one time, and it cost the company 11 people. Yeah, that's a workplace problem, not an individual one.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:54 pm to Slagathor
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if you were one of the 11, you solved the problem
Correct, and no that organization is screwed because of a problem that is very hard to fix due to societal pressure.
This post was edited on 6/3/22 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:54 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You doubt that employees have employment contracts?
Yes.
Hence why they are employees and not contractors.
In fact I don’t know a single person who has an employment contract with their employer. Most states are at will.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:55 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Hence why they are employees and not contractors.
Just because they are employees doesn't mean there's not a contract.
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In fact I don’t know a single person who has an employment contract with their employer
If you know anyone with paid time off you know people with employment contracts.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:56 pm to HoustonChick86
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Just comes down to not abusing the system, IMO.
This is really it. We are very lax, but we've definitely had some folks take big time advantage and everyone becomes super resentful in those cases.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:56 pm to LouisianaLady
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Just comes down to not abusing the system, IMO.
This is really it. We are very lax, but we've definitely had some folks take big time advantage and everyone becomes super resentful in those cases.
This is seemingly very hard to understand for some people
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:57 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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If you know anyone with paid time off you know people with employment contracts.
That’s not how that works lol
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:58 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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That’s not how that works lol
Uhh, yes, that's exactly how it works.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 2:58 pm to LouisianaLady
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we've definitely had some folks take big time advantage and everyone becomes super resentful in those cases
leadership didn't step in to correct it?
Posted on 6/3/22 at 3:00 pm to LouisianaLady
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we've definitely had some folks take big time advantage and everyone becomes super resentful in those cases.
That's a leadership problem. And that sort of thing happens all the time in other situations too. Some people slack off, or are constantly showing up 15-20 minutes late, or take 2 hours worth of smoke breaks, etc.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 3:01 pm to LSUBoo
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That's a leadership problem.
Who said anything to the contrary
Posted on 6/3/22 at 3:01 pm to Slagathor
The kicker of having an awesome boss that is lax and trustworthy is that those who don't deserve to be trusted go unnoticed for a while before people get fed up and start complaining.
This post was edited on 6/3/22 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 6/3/22 at 3:02 pm to LSUBoo
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That's a leadership problem. And that sort of thing happens all the time in other situations too. Some people slack off, or are constantly showing up 15-20 minutes late, or take 2 hours worth of smoke breaks, etc.
For sure. This thread really should be able lazy employees more than about parents. Lazy employees who are also parents, however, get away with more than they would if they didn't because most kid excuses are deemed legitimate/excused.
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