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re: People are turning the CEO assassin into a folk hero
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:25 am to choupiquesushi
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:25 am to choupiquesushi
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because politics is what got health insurance to where it is.
FDR in particular.
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Similarly, employer-based health insurance was not common before World War II. On April 11, 1941, President Franklin D. Roosevelt issued an executive order establishing the Office of Price Administration and Civilian Supply (OPA) “for the purpose of avoiding profiteering and unwarranted price rises, and of facilitating an adequate supply and the equitable distribution of materials and commodities for civilian use, and … the stabilization of prices … in the interest of national defense.”
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Employers were left with no other options but to attract workers by offering competitive benefits packages, including health insurance. Employer-based health insurance was also attractive from a tax perspective. Employer-based health insurance soon outpaced private community programs. By 1953, 63 percent of Americans had employer-based health insurance, compared to only 9 percent in 1940.
Progressivism caused this system to occur.
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Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:29 am to WestCoastAg
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there is no chance whatsoever yall would be celebrating this if this happened to faucci. absolutely zero
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by WestCoastAg
what a dipshit. instead of keeping your head down, you advocate for Anthony Fauci Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Populists are retards. If youre answer to business practices is kill the CEO, youre not fit to make it in this country.
Let me argue a counter-point to that argument - purely as a Devils Advocate.
The issue with big business, especially in the field of health care, is that the businesses are so massive and so intertwined in the manipulation of legislation via lobbyists and massive donations on both sides of the aisle - that they can pretty much operate consequence free.
When a business is so large and growing exponentially, in a seemingly consequence free environment - what is to stop the business from rolling along and continuing to bankrupt the middle to lower class?
An act that sends a shockwave through the fabric of that business to remind those involved that, though they’ve been conditioned to think otherwise, there are consequences to their actions.
If the people making the decisions suddenly no longer feel protected from their actions, they are forced to confront those actions and either address them or accept the potential consequences that may include harm to themselves.
In a civilized society, you’d expect that the legal systems would intervene, but those systems have been compromised by big business to where desperate and mentally and otherwise unwell people no longer have faith in those systems.
I am against harming physically those who don’t share my values and principals, therefore I’m fully against the actions of the shooter - but if you know history, you know that this act of violence will likely have a ripple effect that will change some of the business practices of the medical and pharmaceutical entities.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
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If youre answer to business practices is kill the CEO, youre not fit to make it in this country.
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by RogerTheShrubber
Once is just a mistake or a fat finger. Twice is you’re (the correct word in this case) a dumbass
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:36 am to Jimbojambojumbo
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The issue with big business, especially in the field of health care, is that the businesses are so massive and so intertwined in the manipulation of legislation via lobbyists and massive donations on both sides of the aisle - that they can pretty much operate consequence free.
Blame the voter and the politician for the system we have, not a CEO who is charged with making profit.
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An act that sends a shockwave through the fabric of that business to remind those involved that, though they’ve been conditioned to think otherwise, there are consequences to their actions.
Straight out of Marx. Torches and pitchforks for the little man who thinks his concerns arent taken into consideration.
We change things by the vote here in this country.
Its clear to me that these folks prefer a government monopoly on health care
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:37 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Once is just a mistake or a fat finger.
Little illiterate Mingo, the second you're is correct.
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a dumbass
Youre means you are. Your is possessive. And youre a dumbass.
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 10:41 am
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:48 am to Klark Kent
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what a dipshit. instead of keeping your head down,
I figured he would be in Ukraine putting his mouth where his little brain has been.
But alas, he's too much of a coward.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:56 am to stout
What did people expect to happen? I'm as capitalist and libertarian as they come, but we have this weird mixture of corporations and government in health care, high finance, banking, military industrial complex, ect ect that have just sold the common man down the river. Combine that with the summer of love reminding people that, yes, violence actually works, and there is now an outlet for the steam to go in the simmering pot that is our country. I have a nasty feeling that this won't be the last assassination of a government corpo that we see in the near future.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:57 am to stout
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People are turning the CEO assassin into a folk hero
A dangerous tendency from myopic fools. It will only embolden the next set of deranged cowards to act out their own bitter revenge fantasies, in the hopes of becoming famous.
People who sympathize with a murdering coward who shot an unarmed man in the back and orphaned his children are not deserving of much respect as human beings.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
You have the worst opinion on this of anybody on the board. Aren't you a lifelong leftist? Suddenly you're talking shite about populism and acting like you have this moral high ground.
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 10:59 am
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:59 am to SirWinston
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Gfy you filthy leftist.
That would be more up your territory, being a left wing populist and being in love with a tranny.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Low IQ reactionaries
I don't know how you can look at the current cultural landscape in this country and not conclude that reaction is needed.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 11:00 am to RogerTheShrubber
You are a lifelong leftist! Wtf are you talking about. And stop with the tranny nonsense - they are repulsive and I hate them. The Dylan stuff was a joke, obviously
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 11:01 am
Posted on 12/8/24 at 11:00 am to Tigerlaff
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and not conclude that reaction is needed.
Congrats on your pending single payer..
Thats exactly what you will get, a government monopoly.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 11:00 am to WestCoastAg
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there is no chance whatsoever yall would be celebrating this if this happened to faucci. absolutely zero
Personally, no I wouldn't. I had issues cheering on the Osama assassination as well, purely because I believe every person deserves their chance in court. I'd like to see Fauci tried for crimes against humanity and, if the evidence is strong, convicted and sentenced.
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 11:02 am
Posted on 12/8/24 at 11:02 am to SirWinston
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You are a lifelong leftist!
Are you and STDtiger married, by chance?
Y'all are identical here...
Posted on 12/8/24 at 11:04 am to Jcorye1
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I'd like to see Fauci tried for crimes against humanity and, if the evidence is strong, convicted and sentenced.
If he truly covered up nefarious involvement, absolutely. But I wouldn't celebrate his murder.
I generally wish death on murderers, rapists and other violent criminals. Not people doing their jobs.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 11:06 am to Jimbojambojumbo
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The issue with big business, especially in the field of health care, is that the businesses are so massive and so intertwined in the manipulation of legislation via lobbyists and massive donations on both sides of the aisle - that they can pretty much operate consequence free.
This is what people drawing parallels to a political assassination are missing, this guy was the antithesis of a politician. He represents unapologetic self-interest in a system that has been manipulated through government intervention to reward the sleaziest rather than the best performing.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 11:08 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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He represents unapologetic self-interest in a system that has been manipulated through government intervention to reward the sleaziest rather than the best performing.
Hes been given a virtual monopoly by government.
Your anger is misplaced.
Yall will end up with single payer, and hate it.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 11:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
I’m not angry at anyone. You should give it a shot.
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