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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 2/14/20 at 5:51 am to
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 5:51 am to
For real though, if we could keep the bitching down that’d be great. If y’all want to bicker over what constitutes being put into ICU for another 6-6 pages take it somewhere else.

For this thread how about we all agree that this thing will land somewhere between a nothingburger and the end of the world. That way we can get back to sharing information and updates.

Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 5:54 am to
quote:

Now, he said, he was getting progressively sicker and finding it more difficult to breathe. He said security guards had been stationed at the hotel entrance to prevent patients from escaping — and there were no doctors or medicine. “This is really like a prison,” Mr. Deng said. “Send me to a hospital, please, I need treatment,“ he said, in between bouts of coughing. “There is no one to take care of us here.”


That is absolutely nuts. This is why I don’t trust any of the numbers out of China. The government doesn’t care one bit about its citizens.

The cases outside of China is all we can go off of - and thankfully the numbers are much better - but I think we have another month until we know what we are facing in the Western world.

And slackster - give it up.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7222 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 6:01 am to
Have any numbers been released about ethnicity or gender percentages? I know there was speculation that it was targeting Asian males the hardest. I’m just wondering if that’s a big reason why we haven’t seen the spread worse outside of China.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80154 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 6:10 am to
quote:

how about we all agree that this thing will land somewhere between a nothingburger and the end of the world.


That’s about where it’s at... Mark me down right in the middle, skewed to nothingburger.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84886 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 6:58 am to
quote:

And slackster - give it up.


Sorry to have continually pissed people off with facts. Funny how that works.

Let's get back to the emotionally driven hypothetical this thread loves.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45219 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 7:07 am to
"Facts" = Goose stepping with Communists
This post was edited on 2/14/20 at 7:08 am
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16869 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 7:24 am to
quote:

pissed people off with facts


quote:

One month ban bet the total cases when this is done doesn't get to 15k. You in?



You should ban yourself 4 months since total case is 4X 15k. That would be a nice fact.
This post was edited on 2/14/20 at 7:25 am
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32890 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 7:28 am to
The tripling down on the so called facts is fricking retarded

Its also been entertaining though
This post was edited on 2/14/20 at 7:29 am
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 7:36 am to
quote:

Mark me down right in the middle, skewed to nothingburger.


Agreed.


I'm just trying to figure out how India hasn't had more cases.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62792 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 7:41 am to
I wouldn't ever call it a "nothing burger", for there obviously have been a number of deaths.
Like stating only a category 1 hurricane, that floods some properties as nothing. It is to those who are affected.
But, I'll agree that overall, it's nowhere as bad as the worst fearmongers are stating, but definitely more than a handful of common cold cases.
My guess? Somewhere in the middle. Probably more, much more, than the official Chinese numbers are stating, but not astronomical
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16869 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 7:51 am to
9 more infected in Singapore, totaling 67.

8 people on that cruise ship in serious condition.

1715 China healthcare workers infected, 6 died.

Japanese taxi driver diagnosed with coronavirus; 1st case in Okinawa; woman had contact with "Diamond Princess" cruise ship passengers on Feb. 1



All from BNO

So how does a passenger infect a cab driver? Money exchange?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84886 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 7:52 am to
quote:

You should ban yourself 4 months since total case is 4X 15k. That would be a nice fact.


The excitement as the cases and deaths rise is embarrassing, yet expected from many of you.

Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 8:00 am to
Rumors from my company that has manufacturing in Singapore say that Singapore is considering going into Red alert status and having people stay home.

This quarter is fooked.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56301 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 8:02 am to
quote:

The excitement as the cases and deaths rise is embarrassing, yet expected from many of you.

I think everyone in the thread is genuinely looking for info, but you continue to say that people are getting excited about people suffering and dying. This is not the case.

There is some cause for concern that China is being very very deceitful about reporting, and yes, what is being reported would make this a very mild outbreak. But if it is two to three times as deadly, and the incubation times are much more, and the testing is inaccurate....then this would be very concerning for a large portion of the world.

Again, I dont think anyone would be excited.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 8:09 am to
quote:

So how does a passenger infect a cab driver? Money exchange?


Pretty easily if they cough or sneeze in a confined space. That’s not surprising for a respiratory illness.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84886 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 8:18 am to
quote:

think everyone in the thread is genuinely looking for info, but you continue to say that people are getting excited about people suffering and dying. This is not the case.


Everyone is looking for information they can extrapolate into a reason to panic in the US.

We spent the night arguing about US ICU beds being overrun when there are 15 total cases in this country for frick's sake. It's the pandemic version of wish casting, and it rightfully deserved to be called out as the stupidity it is.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51282 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 8:20 am to
quote:

Everyone is looking for information they can extrapolate into a reason to panic in the US.


Just like the ebola thread.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 8:24 am to
Its contagious even before symptomatic and pretending otherwise is stupid.

Isolation 14 days of incoming traffic is the only "protection".



Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8650 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Have any numbers been released about ethnicity or gender percentages?


Many, many pages back there is one paper that summarized the patients (to date, so it's very old) who had been admitted to a hospital in Wuhan. That wouldn't tell you ethnicity, but would give ages.

abstract for age distribution of first 425 patients

The ship in Yokohama started this leg of its cruise with a diverse Passenger nationality. Google news now has a huge number of individual stories of individual passengers who are sick there and it does include some Brits, what seems to be a lot of Americans, and there are numbers of Japanese listed. Also the local based Quarantine officer.

Has anyone kept a list of links to scientific papers on here? That would be worth pinning at the top.
This post was edited on 2/14/20 at 8:56 am
Posted by Noryev
Member since Aug 2018
955 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 8:33 am to
A guy that I work with was in China, seeing his wifes family.. They got back to the US and was cleared however he was told to stay home and telework for the next couple of weeks just to be sure.
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