re: Penn State knew Sandusky was a pedophile in 1971.

I've kinda lost patience with victims who fail to report. they should be arrested for failure to report.

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It's been so long, what did Sandusky actually do in the program? Besides the obvious.

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He was the program's DC for over twenty years, retiring in 1999 when it became apparent to him (either from the AD or University President) that he would not be the HC-in-waiting whenever Paterno stepped down.

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Upon his retirement, Sandusky was awarded "both an unusual compensation package and a special designation of 'emeritus' rank that carried special privileges, including access to the university’s recreational facilities."[26] Spanier approved a lump-sum payment to Sandusky of $168,000.[26] His final game coaching at Penn State was a notable game for Sandusky. Penn State faced Texas A&M in the 1999 Alamo Bowl in San Antonio, Texas. The Nittany Lions' defense shut out Texas A&M, 24–0, the only bowl game shutout victory for Penn State under Paterno. Sandusky was recognized in ways usually reserved for a head coach. He was doused with a water bucket and carried to the center of the field on the shoulders of his players.[27]

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I'm just saying I don't think kids at school there TODAY, as in 2016, should suffer NEW punishment for this.

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I agree with this, since if they were going to do it, it would have been 4 years ago. We know Penn State ignored it for years, and the length of time is fairly irrelevant. It's just the fact that they knowingly let a child predator frick kids and gave him keys to the place that is the issue. The NCAA made its decision, and child rape was not deemed worthy for the death penalty. I don't think there is a number that is acceptable whatsoever

I think they should have gotten the death penalty, but the time for that has now passed. Adding just 10 more cases of child rape in addition to the 48 and saying that's the line that deserves the death penalty is insulting to the victims initially on trial.

Also no sense in punishing the kids for it now. I wouldn't give a frick if it happened to the 2012 team and they were allowed to transfer elsewhere without penalty, but it's been a bit too long now after the conviction.

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The covered over a crime which gave them a competitive advantage.

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That's a very liberal brush you're painting with. Good debate, though.

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Sandusky, 48 counts of child sexual abuse.

Paterno, knowing and covering it up. He died shortly after, so nothing being pursued.

From what I read, Sandusky was mysteriously fired the year after he won National Asst. Coach of the Year. However, after being terminated, he was still allowed to keep an office, and given the keys to the facilities. It was there that he raped many of the victims. He held some type of football camps for young kids, and would bring them there to show off his access. Then, he'd rape em.

Paterno tries to swear he didn't know it was going on. But it's pretty clear to everyone, except Penn State fans, he knew, but didn't want to ruin his reputation, or hurt recruiting, so he kept it quiet and hoped it would all just go away eventually. He was on a quest to become the winningest coach in CFB, and he wasn't gonna let a few child rapes get in the way.

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This is a very good summary. As sick as a human being Sandusky was, Paterno is just as bad a person as Sandusky was for letting this go on. No one really defended Paterno anyway expect for Penn State fans, which was one of the big things that confused me about all of this. I guess they wanted to defend their own coach's legacy and history.

Sandusky was undoubtedly a top 5 DC. You could make an argument he was the best DC of his time. Penn State's defenses were great under him. By covering up for him they kept him on the sidelines. That's a competitive advantage in my eyes.

I'll admit I may not be completely level-headed talking about this. There were important people covering up for a pedophile for decades. Makes my blood boil.

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I hate the precedent argument in this case. The cover up was done with the sole intention of protecting the football program. If the NCAA can't police a member institution when its community evidently values their football legacy over the safety of children, then they shouldn't even exist. As I said in the MSB thread, the NCAA pussed out retracting the sanctions.

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It's the same argument that I gave the Vol. The NCAA's role is not to police criminal matters. The only reason the NCAA exists is to enforce the rules that no other governing body has jurisdiction over. If recruiting violations were against criminal law, we wouldn't need, nor have, the NCAA.

Penn state fans will still tell you how knew nothing

Their defense of him is sad beyond measure

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The only reason the NCAA exists is to enforce the rules that no other governing body has jurisdiction over.

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Right...so who else was going to punish the football program for knowingly employing a child rapist because he was a great coach, recruiting great players and winning a lot of games?