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Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:32 am to CharlesLSU
does that surprise you? CNN spins stories to get the left worked up. Fox spins stories to get the right worked up. The truth is usually somewhere in between.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:34 am to TH03
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Yes fox news is known for letting the viewer decide what to think.
None of what you said can be found in my post.
These were your words....
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I will give fox news credit here. They bring on people like AOC who aren't there to just be like "hey here's a member of the other party who agrees with us!"
They let libs come on and say whatever they want pretty much. They aren't "token libs" or anything.
That’s you admitting Fox presents both sides of issues. That’s the definition of allowing viewers to decide what to think.
Now tell me another network that does that.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:36 am to Darth_Vader
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Now tell me another network that does that.
All of them. I've seen clips of Republican lawmakers on every cable and broadcast news network. I've seen them quoted in NYT, Washington Post, and numerous other print media outlets.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:40 am to Darth_Vader
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That’s you admitting Fox presents both sides of issues.
Correct.
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That’s the definition of allowing viewers to decide what to think.
No, it's the definition of presenting 2 sides of an argument.
If you present 2 sides then spend 20 minutes explaining how side 2 is horrendously stupid and 100% against what's "good for america," then you aren't letting the viewer decide. When you have a panel of 4 conservatives who laugh off everything the 1 liberal says, you aren't letting the viewer decide.
Sure, the viewer can look past that bias and make the decision, but most people who sit there with CNN, fox news, MSNBC, etc on all day aren't the think for themselves types. Those channels by their very nature wouldn't exist if they were.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:41 am to CharlesLSU
I mean is it too much to ask for? Can there not be an objective news sources that simply delivers facts and not commentary/spin? I use the term a lot, but it's true: Infotainment.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:48 am to saint tiger225
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That doesn't say a lot about your ability to please her. Or, it actually says a lot about your inability to please her.

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Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:51 am to TH03
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If you present 2 sides then spend 20 minutes explaining how side 2 is horrendously stupid and 100% against what's "good for america," then you aren't letting the viewer decide. When you have a panel of 4 conservatives who laugh off everything the 1 liberal says, you aren't letting the viewer decide.
Sure, the viewer can look past that bias and make the decision, but most people who sit there with CNN, fox news, MSNBC, etc on all day aren't the think for themselves types. Those channels by their very nature wouldn't exist if they were.
24 hour network news has become activism more than actual journalism. Unfortunately, we are even seeing that in the WH press conferences. Like Trump or not, we all know how he can get. But sometimes, with the way that actual "journalists" literally attempt to get into arguments with him to instigate a reaction, I sometimes catch myself realizing that I would respond the same way. Yes, I voted for Trump. Yes, I do think that he's a little over the top at times. But the way the media sometimes plays "cat and mouse" with him, they tend to ask for it.
But the beauty of this nation is that we get to decide if we want a change or keep things the same this coming November.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:52 am to Aubie Spr96
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I mean is it too much to ask for? Can there not be an objective news sources that simply delivers facts and not commentary/spin? I use the term a lot, but it's true: Infotainment.
News has been tainted for a while. It is sad what it has become.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:02 am to Cajunese
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he way that actual "journalists" literally attempt to get into arguments with him to instigate a reaction, I sometimes catch myself realizing that I would respond the same way.
I think it's fair to say that journalists ask stupid questions, and some of them sometimes take a confrontational tone with Trump at these press conferences. I think it's also fair to say that Trump often talks out of both sides of his mouth, and his words don't always match the message from other people in his administration. So I don't think it's unfair when a reporter asks him to clarify the White House's position on something where he has said one thing, and someone else has said another. He almost without exception refuses to answer these type questions, and instead often takes a confrontational tone with the reporter and that q&a portion devolves into him shouting down the reporter. But to the right, it's always the reporter's fault. Sometimes the reporter is in the wrong, especially the smug a-hole Jim Acosta, but often they're just trying to get a clearer statement on what the White House's official stance is on something.
All that to say that I think that both are guilty of acting unprofessionally at times.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:15 am to TH03
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Now do fox news
you do know charlesLSU is the farthest thing from a trump fan right?
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:17 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:you have no source you just pulled it out of your arse
don’t like data or objective analysis?
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:19 am to The Spleen
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I think it's fair to say that journalists ask stupid questions, and some of them sometimes take a confrontational tone with Trump at these press conferences. I think it's also fair to say that Trump often talks out of both sides of his mouth, and his words don't always match the message from other people in his administration. So I don't think it's unfair when a reporter asks him to clarify the White House's position on something where he has said one thing, and someone else has said another. He almost without exception refuses to answer these type questions, and instead often takes a confrontational tone with the reporter and that q&a portion devolves into him shouting down the reporter. But to the right, it's always the reporter's fault. Sometimes the reporter is in the wrong, especially the smug a-hole Jim Acosta, but often they're just trying to get a clearer statement on what the White House's official stance is on something.
All that to say that I think that both are guilty of acting unprofessionally at times.
I can agree with that. I don't always think it is the reporter's fault, but I usually try to find who asked the question and the news station that they're affiliated with. Fox and OAN will throw him fairly softball questions. CNN will straight up try to get into a pissing match with him. And ABC/NBC/CBS will tend to do either depending on the reporter. Sometimes, I will catch myself agreeing with Trump's reaction to certain questions because they're straight up dumb questions and a waste of his time. Other times, I will just wonder why he won't answer that simple question.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:21 am to CAD703X
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you do know charlesLSU is the farthest thing from a trump fan right?
....and it should shock you I'm being critical of left-leaning media. Might it be I'm a GOP-leaning, libertarian?
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:22 am to Cajunese
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I will just wonder why he won't answer that simple question.
Usually he wants it both ways. He doesn't want to clarify the White House's position on something because that gives him accountability to that position. If there's confusion on the position, he can wait and see which position is more beneficial to him and claim victory. It's been his MO for years.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:22 am to Cajunese
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But the beauty of this nation is that we get to decide if we want a change or keep things the same this coming November.
Not if the House Democrats have any say in the matter.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:24 am to CAD703X
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you do know charlesLSU is the farthest thing from a trump fan right?
And that means what exactly in terms of what I said?
I know labeling people gives you guys a boner, but it's irrelevant.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:24 am to Centinel
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Not if the House Democrats have any say in the matter
What, are they going to nullify your vote?
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:25 am to Centinel
My main concern is local political movements.
For example, Harris County pushing mail-in ballots......that's total bullshite and is absolutely influential on the federal level.
For example, Harris County pushing mail-in ballots......that's total bullshite and is absolutely influential on the federal level.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:26 am to TH03
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I know labeling people
I'll wear that fricker with pride!
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