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re: Part of the new Hard Rock Hotel collapses (NOLA) 3 dead, Cranes Down-ish

Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:09 am to
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:09 am to
What are the odds this is the fault of a subcontractor who was a "forced hire" to keep the right people happy? Because there are no major projects in this city where that does not happen.
This post was edited on 10/12/19 at 11:12 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
38830 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:11 am to
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What are the odds this is the fault of a subcontractor who was a "forced hire" to keep the right people happy?


I bet you're praying for this to be true.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92645 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:11 am to
Looks like somebody skipped a step on the checklist.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:12 am to
quote:

What are the odds this is the fault of a subcontractor who was a "forced hire" to keep the right people happy?


I bet you're praying for this to be true.


Not really because this sucks mostly for those hurt or killed and then for the city. I would far rather thisnot have happened at all.
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:13 am to
Don’t be a moron
This post was edited on 10/12/19 at 11:43 am
Posted by jscrims
Lost
Member since May 2008
3693 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:16 am to
All of y’all are dumb if you think this is not covered by insurance.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:20 am to
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One rescued from collapse zone so far.



You can see that one guy trying to get inside.

Damn that's awful.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:20 am to
1 confirmed fatality and 3 still missing per WDSU FB video.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36287 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:21 am to
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All of y’all are dumb if you think this is not covered by insurance.




And you’re dumb if you don’t think someone’s premiums are about to skyrocket, if they’re insurable at all
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
39998 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:21 am to
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What are the odds this is the fault of a subcontractor who was a "forced hire" to keep the right people happy? 


This is where you go with your narrative? Who knows what the investigation will show, but can EMS attend to the wounded before you bring up your unsubstantiated theory.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
38830 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:22 am to
Insurance will certainly fight tooth and nail to deny coverage. Lawyers bout to get paid.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7958 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:22 am to
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All of y’all are dumb if you think this is not covered by insurance.


Insurance is not unlimited....

Since there are injuries and fatalities and a pretty expensive structure that is heavily damaged the costs will be very high.

Keep in mind there will be rescue operations immediately, then forensics engineering, demolition operations, and ultimately reconstruction.

It’s a pretty long and expensive road.

Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:23 am to
Question for Engineering folks...How do you even begin going in to clean this up with the crane looking like it is ready to go? I would guess it is a very slow and excruciating process for safety readons.
This post was edited on 10/12/19 at 11:24 am
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:25 am to
quote:
All of y’all are dumb if you think this is not covered by insurance.


Insurance is not unlimited....

Since there are injuries and fatalities and a pretty expensive structure that is heavily damaged the costs will be very high.

Keep in mind there will be rescue operations immediately, then forensics engineering, demolition operations, and ultimately reconstruction.

It’s a pretty long and expensive road.

There will also be a ton of nuisance suits from people in the area claiming they breathed in the dust.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36287 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:25 am to
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ultimately reconstruction.



Maybe. HR may wash their hands of it
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7958 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:28 am to
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Question for Engineering folks...How do you even begin going in to clean this up with the crane looking like it is ready to go? I would guess it is a very slow and excruciating process for safety readons.


That will certainly be challenging.

It’s obvious the support/attachment structure for that crane was part of the damaged area.

They will need a crane to do a lot of the demo.

Unless they can verify or shore up the one that is standing I would guess they may have to erect another crane just to demo the existing one and demo the partially collapsed portion of the structure.

Regardless, it is a shite sandwich with no easy fix.

Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:30 am to
Two hotels under construction in New Orleans in a year with structural issues. Is that a regular thing?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36287 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:30 am to
If it’s a total teardown, there might be a chance they implode it
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60888 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:31 am to
Deep South has a big arse crane in south La that can handle it
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36287 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:31 am to
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Two hotels under construction in New Orleans in a year with structural issues.



Unsubstantiated that this is a structural issue
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