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Panera Cares fails miserably (Panera's donation based experiment)
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:16 pm
Panera Socialist experiment
Well, I am shocked this failed.
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Panera Bread has shuttered the last of its ideologically driven "pay what you want" restaurants. The socialist-tinged ventures were called "Panera Cares" and the higher-ups have finally figured out that "caring" is not synonymous with "viable business model." On February 15, the final Panera Cares, located in Boston, will close.
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The chain opened its first donation-based community cafe in St. Louis, Missouri, in 2010. Under the model championed by the company’s founder Ron Shaich, the restaurant operated like a typical Panera, but offered meals at a suggested donation price, with the goal of raising awareness about food insecurity. “In many ways, this whole experiment is ultimately a test of humanity,” Shaich said in a TEDx talk later that year. “Would people pay for it? Would people come in and value it?”
Well, I am shocked this failed.
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Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:18 pm to bbvdd
i for one cannot believe this didn't work
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:18 pm to bbvdd
The only way you can rely on that kind of system is if you are a country roadside stand that sells fruit and firewood and have an "honor box" and you know all the folks.
We care only as much as we know our neighbors well. No one gives a flying frick about a franchise store.
We care only as much as we know our neighbors well. No one gives a flying frick about a franchise store.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:20 pm to geauxtigers87
Cannot imagine how this happened.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:23 pm to bbvdd
One thing I don't like about Panera (and they are just one of hundreds of other examples) is how they make themselves out to be this ultra-healthy, good clean eating place. Presumably if I was a fatty, or wanting to eat a better diet, and saw their commercials I would think this place is really healthy and good for me. Yet in the commercials they show people chomping down on large sandwiches that are mostly just bread and woofing down a soup that is mostly cheese. Subway is by far the worst offender though.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:23 pm to bbvdd
so, giving people the option to pay little or nothing at all for a product failed?
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:25 pm to WG_Dawg
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Subway is by far the worst offender though.
Look at Jared though
Oh nevermind...
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:25 pm to Uncle Smacky
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Look at Jared though
Guaranteed he gets filled up by a footlong.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:26 pm to bbvdd
I don't view this as a total socialistic model.
This model preys more on the greed side of people, rather than just offering up different priced foods.
A true socialistic model that these goons should have experimented with was to charge people related to their income level.
You make $200k/ year? Your sandwich, chips and drink will be $25.
You make $20k/year? Yours is $5.
Something like that. Don't know how to prove the incomes of customers, but that is a true socialistic experiment, rather than the one attempted.
This model preys more on the greed side of people, rather than just offering up different priced foods.
A true socialistic model that these goons should have experimented with was to charge people related to their income level.
You make $200k/ year? Your sandwich, chips and drink will be $25.
You make $20k/year? Yours is $5.
Something like that. Don't know how to prove the incomes of customers, but that is a true socialistic experiment, rather than the one attempted.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:26 pm to bbvdd
And every blue haired socialist they were catering to decided not to pay their fair share because frick corporations lol
Frick corporations indeed, moonbeam.
Frick corporations indeed, moonbeam.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:32 pm to Logician
I also like how the implication is that if this business model fails, well, that’s just because y’all are terrible people. Has nothing to do with my shite idea. Typical progressive.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:36 pm to bbvdd
their food is overpriced garbage to begin with.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:38 pm to Logician
From the linked Eater article:
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Each restaurant was designed to sustain itself, but the restaurants weren’t financially viable. The Portland-based Panera Cares was reportedly only recouping between 60 and 70 percent of its total costs. The losses were attributed students who “mobbed” the restaurant and ate without paying, as well as homeless patrons who visited the restaurant for every meal of the week. The location eventually limited the homeless to “a few meals a week.”
“We had to help them understand that this is a café of shared responsibility and not a handout,” Shaich said in a 2011 interview about the Portland location. “It can’t serve as a shelter and we can’t have community organizations sending everybody down.” Some visitors noted in online reviews that the restaurant began to feel unwelcoming to the very people it aimed to serve, suggesting that Panera maybe didn’t care about community-building as much as its original goal suggested. Patrons reported security guards roaming the entrance and “glaring at customers.” People working with at-risk residents described incidents during which they were rudely told off by managers for “abusing the system.”
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:38 pm to bayou choupique
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their food is overpriced garbage to begin with.
Their sandwiches are 80% bread. frick you, I'm not paying 9 dollars for two pieces of bread.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:38 pm to bbvdd
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The chain opened its first donation-based community cafe in St. Louis, Missouri, in 2010
Surprise this lasted this long. Now Chik Fil-A on the other hand..
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:45 pm to just1dawg
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had to help them understand that this is a café of shared responsibility and not a handout
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It can’t serve as a shelter and we can’t have community organizations sending everybody down.
If only there was some system that required people to exchange hard earned money in exchange for food to keep the riffraff down..
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:47 pm to HempHead
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The only way you can rely on that kind of system is if you are a country roadside stand that sells fruit and firewood and have an "honor box" and you know all the folks.
Even then, you have a set price and the purchaser either pays the price or steals the products. In Panera's case, they are asking people to make donations, not requiring payment for their products. The model was doomed.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:52 pm to HDAU
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he model was doomed.
It honeslty blows my mind that ANYONE, no matter how idealistic or left-leaning or whatever, could think this could be a sustainable model. I mean sure you will get some kind hearted souls that will tip a $10 or $20 if they're feeling good. But it has to be bare bones common sense that most people are going to at most tip a buck or two with MANY giving absolutely nothing. And I mean..that's what brings people in in the first place right, the novelty of it? "you mean I can go get a meal and don't have to pay anything? Hell yeah I'm on my way!"
I mean how dumb can you be honestly
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:56 pm to WG_Dawg
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Yet in the commercials they show people chomping down on large sandwiches that are mostly just bread and woofing down a soup that is mostly cheese. Subway is by far the worst offender though.
Be careful people around here don't like being told bread is bad for them
Posted on 2/13/19 at 1:57 pm to bbvdd
Yeah, they had to eventually add a suggested pricing section to the menu because people were so confused by the model.
Eventually, they figured out that people with money didn't want to sit and eat right next to nasty homeless people and junkies. They also had to add digital locks to the bathroom doors(with codes that changed every hour) because people would try to sleep in them or use them to shoot up and pass out in them.
Eventually, they figured out that people with money didn't want to sit and eat right next to nasty homeless people and junkies. They also had to add digital locks to the bathroom doors(with codes that changed every hour) because people would try to sleep in them or use them to shoot up and pass out in them.
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 1:58 pm
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