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re: Paging mechanics of the OT: Car not accelerating (Update pg 4)

Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:01 am to
Posted by PSU2LSU
Oxford MS
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:01 am to
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yeah. I just hate to spend all that money and it not do shite to fix my problem.


Platinum plugs for this is about $2.50 a piece total $10

Air Filter probably $8 for a fram from Walmart

Fuel Filter is under $10.

Can of Carb cleaner might be $5.

So all in all you are looking at under $40 with tax for a tuneup.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21657 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:05 am to
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latinum plugs for this is about $2.50 a piece total $10

Air Filter probably $8 for a fram from Walmart

Fuel Filter is under $10.

Can of Carb cleaner might be $5.

So all in all you are looking at under $40 with tax for a tuneup.



True. I'm not a car guy beyond changing my own oil and tires and shite, but I've never changed the spark plugs or fuel filter or anything of the sort.

I imagine it shouldn't be terribly difficult.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21657 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:06 am to
Any chance it could be the oil leaking from my bad valve cover gasket that got on the plugs or plug wires? Or would that cause a check engine or other light to show up?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:07 am to
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True. I'm not a car guy beyond changing my own oil and tires and shite, but I've never changed the spark plugs or fuel filter or anything of the sort.

I imagine it shouldn't be terribly difficult.
With a car as popular as the civic, there is a good chance there are step by step instructions and videos online to show you exactly how to do it.
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:12 am to
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I imagine it shouldn't be terribly difficult


You'll probably have to take the back seat out to change the fuel filter. It shouldn't be too hard in a Honda.
Posted by PSU2LSU
Oxford MS
Member since Apr 2011
3223 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:35 am to
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You'll probably have to take the back seat out to change the fuel filter. It shouldn't be too hard in a Honda.


If I remember correctly a fuel filter for a 2005 Honda is located up against the fire wall and easily accessible.

Spark plugs are easy on a 4 banger. Just do one at a time. Use anti seize when putting them back in, and hand thread as far as you can.

Air filter is just a couple of clasps.

I am sure you can ask one of your more mechanically inclined friends to give you a hand when doing all this.

Edit.. apparently the fuel filter for the 2005 model isn't on the firewall. that was the earlier models. It is indeed in the gas tank.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 11:38 am
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:37 am to
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If I remember correctly a fuel filter for a 2005 Honda is located up against the fire wall and easily accessible


It's part of the fuel pump assembly on the gas tank, under the back seat.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:38 am to
OK,NOW THAT YOU SAID HE CHANGED THE VALVE COVER GASKET i'M LEANING MORE TOWARD A BAD PLUG WIRE. THEY'RE EASY TO BREAK WHEN REMOVING THEM.MIGHT BE MAKING INTERMITTENT CONTACT.

sorry for the caps but I ain't retyping all that shite.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74242 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:40 am to
sounds like a computer control issue.

Did you reset the computer?

If not unplug the negative terminal from the battery and hold the key in the start position for 30 seconds.

Then see if you still have the problem. I'm assuming no CEL's so you probably don't have a MAF sensor or something out.

Fuel delivery could be an issue, but wouldn't explain why it get's better after ten minutes.

If you suspect it could be a exhaust blockage in the cats, you could remove the upstream O2 sensors and run it and see if it improves. If not and it's not the computer then look at the fuel filter, then the fuel pump.

Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:02 pm to
Wouldn't a bad plug wire cause it to miss and be evident even if the engine is hot? It is a 4 cylinder
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:05 pm to
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Wouldn't a bad plug wire cause it to miss and be evident even if the engine is hot? It is a 4 cylinder



like i said,intermittent connection issues probably caused by the wire pulling away from the crimped connector at the top of the wire boot.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74242 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:06 pm to
a friend of mine had his car towed the other day.

The tow truck driver tells me "it's shooting sparks from the firewall and has a major electrical problem"

I start it up, see the ignition coil arching to the loose wore and tighten it up.

I was shocked the dude towed his car over that.

Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:08 pm to
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shooting sparks from the firewall
nice. Glad the tow truck driver didn't study to be a brain surgeon.
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:09 pm to
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I was shocked the dude towed his car over that.


A tow-truck driver isn't going to try to fix the problem, they get paid by number of tows. As far as the friend, he just didn't feel like dealing with it and probably doesn't know or want to know the basics of an engine.

Most "men" nowadays can't even use a crescent.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74242 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:10 pm to
the coil is on the firewall on that car, but when I saw it, it was so obvious that the coil to distributor wire was loose.

Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:11 pm to
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the coil is on the firewall on that car, but when I saw it, it was so obvious that the coil to distributor wire was loose.



what make and model?
Posted by windmill
Prairieville, La
Member since Dec 2005
7807 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:12 pm to
I am a mechanic of 33 yrs-whatever that's worth. Converter?-no-it would get worse when heated up or hot. Fuel filter-no-it would be restricted at all times and not just for the first ten minutes. Pump? Again not likely bad just when cold.
I'm wondering if you're describing an actual misfire as an acceleration problem. Communication between you and repair person is very important here.
If it is not a misfire but an actual"lull" or "sag" with no CEL(check engine light) then I would be thinking Mass AIr Flow sensor-if it's equipped with one.
Remember that a code can be stored in the PCM even if the CEL is not on. Based on info given I would want the valve cover gasket change job kept in mind. If it is a misfire-spark plu wire is the overwhelming suspect.
I hope this helps- good luck.
Posted by johnnydrama
Possibly Trashy
Member since Feb 2010
9192 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:16 pm to
It's all ball-bearings these days.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:18 pm to
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I would want the valve cover gasket change job kept in mind. If it is a misfire-spark plu wire is the overwhelming suspect.
I hope this helps- good luck.
this is why I changed my song once finding about the valve cover gasket.
I have seen fuel pumps act up in all sorts of weird ways.One was that they started working better once ran for a little while.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15750 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:18 pm to
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Eventually, after driving it for about 10 minutes, it gets better and starts accelerating normally.


Let the car warm up for 10 min. prior to leaving. That will be a $95.00 minimum charge diagnostic fee.
Thanks for your business
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