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re: Packers Had a Covid Outbreak of Vaxxed Employees Week Before Rodgers tests Positive

Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:09 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294390 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:09 am to
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Right now, getting the vaxx if you are healthy seems fairly worthless


Which is what people have been saying all along. However the orthodoxy of the ministry of Covidians has criticized unvaccinated, young, healthy people and blamed them for the situation.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23306 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:10 am to
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You are lost. You took a stand saying we should be "past long term studies" and you clearly have no clue what that means.


Incorrect. You still haven't answered the question of what long term means to YOU with regards to new medical life saving tech?

Furthermore, everything I've seen points to almost 0 chance of any new issues coming around with these since they have been out for 6 months or more with billions taking it.

Almost everything I've seen points to "long term" side effects in relation to vaccines being more like 2-4 months.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23306 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:11 am to
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Which is what people have been saying all along. However the orthodoxy of the ministry of Covidians has criticized unvaccinated, young, healthy people and blamed them for the situation.


Again, all along is moot. Now, you are using hindsight.

In the future, you could be wrong also. Right now, you are correct it seems right
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294390 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:13 am to
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You still haven't answered the question of what long term means to YOU


Many medicines don't even get out of trials for 10-15 years.

So I would think that is a good long term metric to use.

Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:14 am to
He broke the rules and lied. He's a tool.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294390 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:16 am to
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He broke the rules


Did you tell the teachers?
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20602 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:17 am to
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But there’s been over 7 billion Covid shots given now. At one point is your ‘untested’ soap box going to stop? You do understand that outside of sci fi movies, there’s almost no history of long term side effects starting after a month or so. Can we agree on that at least?

The issue is as much as they over reported deaths/hospitalizations with COVID; it appears there are storied of under-reporting the side-effects from the vaccines.

Another thought I have when I see these statements, is what happened with the Anthrx vaccine? weren't there some major issues that came out months/years after they were already administering these to our military personnel? (asking because I don't know, but hear people bring it up with no context and never see anyone discuss it)
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23306 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:17 am to
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Many medicines don't even get out of trials for 10-15 years.

So I would think that is a good long term metric to use


So the next pandemic or plague, your recommendation is no vaccines for 10-15 years?
Posted by kisatchie53
Member since Jul 2011
1964 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:27 am to
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apologize to you. I did clearly mix you up with someone els


It ain’t no biggie. I do that also
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89738 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:35 am to
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You are lost. You took a stand saying we should be "past long term studies" and you clearly have no clue what that means.


it really is kind of sad

some cant come to grips that they have chosen to become the short term, intermediate term and long term testing subject of an experimental therapeutic drug

the whole point of the propaganda effort was to create a sense of urgency and panic and cause rational people to make a rush to judgement. Why is that?

will we know for certain if the Covid "Vaccines" caused cancer or heart disease or whatever else? Maybe, maybe not.

Have the Vaxxed voluntarily allowed the vaccines to become a "factor" (be it good or bad) in their present and future health? Yes they have.

I sincerely hope that works out for them.
This post was edited on 11/9/21 at 10:39 am
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19774 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:40 am to
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baldona


Serious question how many mRNA vaccines have ever passed an animal trial?
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89738 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:42 am to
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everything I've seen points to almost 0 chance


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with billions taking it


quote:

Almost everything I've seen points to


like I said, it really is kind of sad

you minimize the tiny bit of negative information that sees the light of day, you justify your argument with made up numbers derived from propaganda and you spend a good part of your morning trying to convince strangers on a message board that you are right and we are wrong

good luck man
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19774 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:50 am to
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So the next pandemic or plague, your recommendation is no vaccines for 10-15 years?


How about we use a traditional method of making a vaccine and not use a method that has never been able to pass animal trials? How about not making it where somebody has too choose between his/her career and taking something they have grave concerns about?
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19774 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:53 am to
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you minimize the tiny bit of negative information that sees the light of day, you justify your argument with made up numbers derived from propaganda and you spend a good part of your morning trying to convince strangers on a message board that you are right and we are wrong


You know “friendly fire” is no big deal because it happens so rarely….until it is you on the receiving end. Then it becomes a big fricking deal!
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89738 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:58 am to
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You know “friendly fire” is no big deal because it happens so rarely….until it is you on the receiving end. Then it becomes a big fricking deal!



yep
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23306 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 10:59 am to
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you minimize the tiny bit of negative information that sees the light of day, you justify your argument with made up numbers derived from propaganda and you spend a good part of your morning trying to convince strangers on a message board that you are right and we are wrong


You realize I’m not actually trying to convince you of anything right? You admit there’s no ‘long term studies’ so you are admitting you actually don’t know…I’m assuming you understand that?

I had one point, that your ‘I don’t know’ argument is growing older by the day.

I could not care less if you get it. Just don’t act like you aren’t a guinea pig in life either because of one decision.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14371 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 11:01 am to
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Show us a link to a long term study on either one, oh yeah they don't exist....


I don’t think they publish scientific studies in coloring books so you wouldn’t be able understand it.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23306 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 11:01 am to
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You know “friendly fire” is no big deal because it happens so rarely….until it is you on the receiving end. Then it becomes a big fricking deal!




So your point now is we should never go to war because of the minuscule risk of friendly fire?

ETA: I hope you realize that even with the most time tested vaccines with years and years of studies, there’s a risk to everyone that something could happen. There’s never 0 risk.
This post was edited on 11/9/21 at 11:03 am
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
51891 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 11:03 am to
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it appears there are storied of under-reporting the side-effects from the vaccines.


OSHA FAQ




Why would the people mandating the vaccine to keep your job not track adverse reactions?
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89738 posts
Posted on 11/9/21 at 11:09 am to
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You realize I’m not actually trying to convince you of anything right? You admit there’s no ‘long term studies’ so you are admitting you actually don’t know…I’m assuming you understand that?

I had one point, that your ‘I don’t know’ argument is growing older by the day.

I could not care less if you get it. Just don’t act like you aren’t a guinea pig in life either because of one decision.




you dont read so good barner

my point is, you have voluntarily become a test subject and YOU dont know what that means to YOU long term. Maybe it is all good, maybe it is not so good, YOU just dont know. You can hope, we can offer you support, but there is a giant question mark sitting in front of YOU. You can say whatever you want, justify it however you want, COPE however you want but you made a decision and you are going to live with it, good or bad.

I wish you nothing but the best

I dont have that question mark, I may get Covid and die in a week but one thing is certain, good or bad the vaccines wont be a factor in that process.
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