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OT Workout crew: What am I doing wrong?

Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:35 am
Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
4039 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:35 am
6'3
231 lbs

I have been eating pretty well the last week, using MyFitnessPal to help in losing weight, but for whatever reason I'm gaining weight. I've been stuck at this high 220's, low 230's wall for what feels like forever now and I'm drinking nothing but water, coffee, tea and skim milk occasionally. I got with a personal trainer and my lean body weight is 190-205 or at least where I'm supposed to be.

I just started MFP so maybe I just need to give it time? Or maybe something is getting me worse than I think it is? According to MFP, my caloric intake per day should be around 2,800 to lose 1 lb per week. Maybe this is wrong?

Any and all help would be appreciated.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
17829 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:38 am to
If you're developing muscle mass, you add to your weight.
Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
4039 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:46 am to
Well the current routine I'm on is the 5x5, should I not be doing this if I want to cut weight? I do cardio on the days in between. Also, I should probably note that I'm just beginning to get back into working out after recovering from a broken collarbone.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:51 am to
You added water and muscle weight

"Working out is a marathon, not a sprint"
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 5:14 pm
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:52 am to
quote:

Well the current routine I'm on is the 5x5
frick no. Stick to 10-12. Sometimes 15. Keep your rest short 30-45sec. Change up the way you perform a rep (i.e. do negative reps on a 3 count). Take your sets to failure.

Profit


All of those blimpy fat muscle dudes who think they are ripped are going to live by the 5x5 though
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 8:39 pm
Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
4039 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:55 am to
So basically I'm going to see results but not yet and begin doing more reps? Thanks a lot btw, def appreciate it man.

All I've ever really known is cardio and I just began introducing weights because I wanted to transform fat to muscle as opposed to having saggy skin, etc.
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 1:56 am
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30060 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:12 am to
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7193 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:54 am to
5x5 isn't gonna make you bulk up - that's a common misconception. It's designed to make you stronger. Higher reps tend to add more mass. That being said, ANY resistance training is going to build some muscle and muscle is quite a bit heavier than fat.

You can be 6'3" 231 and lean as hell, but I take it that's not the case. Follow your MFP ap as a guide and make sure you're doing plenty cardio.


quote:

transform fat to muscle


I'm risking sounding like a dick here but that's not my intention. You cannot transform fat to muscle. You will burn fat through diet, cardio and weight lifting, and will build and strengthen your muscle. I'm sure you understand this but you'd be surprised how many don't.

ETA: If you're gonna drink milk, just drink while milk or 2% and get the benefits they offer. And remember when you're grocery shopping, stay on the outside of the aisles. The closer to the center, the worse the food is for you.
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 2:58 am
Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
4039 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 4:24 am to
Thanks a lot man! That really helps but for weight lifting should I be aiming for high reps?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 4:37 am to
The old adage is lower weight, higher reps if you want to tone up. Heavier weight, lower reps to bulk up. If you're putting on muscle, you're weight will (in most cases) go up. I'd stop the 5x5 and try doing more toning exercises. A quick visit to the web should give you plenty of exercise programs for toning.
Posted by greystreettoker
work, most likely
Member since Apr 2011
3460 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:01 am to
2800 is a lot of calories. Drop it 500 and see how you feel after a week.
Posted by weskarl
Space City
Member since Mar 2007
5635 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:09 am to
quote:

2800 is a lot of calories. Drop it 500 and see how you feel after a week.



^^ Sounds like you are way over estimating your caloric burn. Get a food scale, weigh and log EVERYTHING, eat ~2200 cals. Weight loss won't happen over night or in a week. DOMS can lead to water retention.

Cut out the skim milk. All you're drinking is sugar. Drink unsweet almond milk if you need the taste, water, black coffee.
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 5:10 am
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7193 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:15 am to
quote:

The old adage is lower weight, higher reps if you want to tone up. Heavier weight, lower reps to bulk up.


This is not accurate at all. Heavy weight low reps builds strength. Light weight high reps builds size. Any weight training will "tone" muscle because it's burning fat.



Hypertrophy increases muscle size. And OP, you need to have a good balance of high and low rep workouts. Good luck with your goals
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 5:21 am
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26518 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:49 am to
1. It's been a week. Give it time.

2. 2,800 calories is way too many.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26575 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:32 am to
I'm about the same height...last summer I was on a mission to drop real weight and tone up...here's how I broke through 230 to get to 215:

Preworkout
25-30 minutes of cardio prior to lifting
Switched from leg-upper to leg-upper push, upper pull and went every day except Saturday
Keep leg day intense
Post workout fatburner/glutamine/creatine/BCAAS
Do 20 laps at the pool on Sundays
Eat omelet at 0730, protein shake at 0930, chicken breast at 1200, tuna at 1400, protein bar at 1700, light salad sometimes at 2000
THEN...

I started fasting, yes, fasting on Tuesday and Sunday I did not eat after noon, I didn't start eating again until 0730 the next day.
Apparently if you are in good shape, your metabolism works different when you fast for 18 hours than if your a slob. Look it up, it works. I was abbed out from September to Thanksgiving.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24598 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:33 am to
quote:

xxKylexx


My two weight loss routines
1.) live hungry. Eat just enough to survive and maintain energy for working out, and that's it. I generally live with a grumbling stomach for about 6 months when I am losing weight.
2.) Mix up weights for intensity days. I try to throw in at least two circuit days where i do 2-4 6 minute circuits. Bodybuilding.com has plenty of pre-made workouts under the workout section.


My results: Was a whopping 230 (5'11) fatass and then cut out all bread and spaghetti noodles for 6 months. Primarily hung out in the cardio routines and lost 50lbs.

my 2c
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 3:29 pm
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26575 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:36 am to
quote:

2,800 calories is way too many.


Agree, my daily intake was 1800-2100...

Then I started fasting...the guy that got me started on it fasted 1 whole day twice a week (noon-noon). Dude was pretty ripped, and used to be a big cat. He didn't even stick to a ridged diet when he wasn't fasting, as long as he got 4 servings of protein a day, he carbed up...dude swam 3-5 days a week, though
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8806 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:38 am to
How's your food quality?

You mention calories and drinks, just make sure you are hitting your macros, but doing so with food quality vs. food stuff.

If you don't have a food scale, get one.

I wouldn't keep cutting calories more, maybe start walking more Along with your current training.

Cutting calories too much + overtraining = stressed out skinny fat.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32015 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:48 am to
quote:

You added water


this.. stay at it, drink tons of water.. it will fall off. And if you are lifting weights on the regular then throw away the scale. Get a tape, and measure your chest, waist, arms, etc and go by that.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83922 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:49 am to
Might want to drop the skim milk. Still has lactose. Switch to sugar-free milk or unsweetened almond milk.
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