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OT Teachers and Students: Retaking Tests

Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:38 pm
Posted by tuptiger
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:38 pm
So, do you think allowing a retake on a test when the grades were bad is fair? Example: Student A makes 40. Teacher offers retake on that test. Student A makes 90. Student B makes 90 on the original test. Student B makes 40 on different test but no retake offered on that test.

Legit complaint if you're Student B?
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 5:42 pm
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:39 pm to
What grade (college, high school, etc.)?
Posted by tuptiger
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:40 pm to
College
Posted by High C
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:40 pm to
I'm not giving retakes to anyone, if it's not offered to everyone.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:40 pm to
Reason for offering a retake?
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:41 pm to
Test average is 65 on the retake offered original test
Test average is 80 on the one student B did poorly on

College level

This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 5:42 pm
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:42 pm to
Only for the one you're sleeping with.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:42 pm to
I think I would grade on a curve rather than offering retests. I never remember getting the chance to retest.

The other scenario opens a whole can of worms down the road and might set a bad precedent.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:43 pm to
That doesn't explain anything. Error on first test? Second test optional? Professor is a moron?
ETA:

My first Structrual test, I made a 75. Class average was a 45. Being the highest grade, he bumped everyone 25 points. I got das A
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 5:46 pm
Posted by tuptiger
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:43 pm to
I think it's bullshite Student B gets penalized. Had this argument at one point.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

So, do you think allowing a retake on a test when the grades were bad is fair? Example: Student A makes 40. Teacher offers retake on that test. Student A makes 90. Student B makes 90 on the original test. Student B makes 40 on different test but no retake offered on that test.

Legit complaint?


the only way this wouldn't be total horse shite IMO is if for some inexplicable reason the teacher told everyone that there would be retakes for the first test, but not the second, before either test was taken. the student who got a 90 should also be able to retake to try and score even better.
Posted by tuptiger
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:44 pm to
Retake is optional
Student B declines retake
No error. Just bad grades.

Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

Test average is 65 on the retake offered original test
Test average is 80 on the one student B did poorly on

College level


Selective retests sounds like bullshite. Teacher should just grade on a curve if he/she wants to normalize between easier/harder tests.

Student B has a right to be pissed.
Posted by Ellssu
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:45 pm to
No it is not fair to the student that put in the time and effort. Everyone doesn't get an A. I don't allow that or extra work.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 5:48 pm
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:52 pm to
Very experienced high school teacher here.


Retaking tests makes it easier on the teacher and school by putting the responsibility on the student.

Before a student can retake the test they must do an extra assignment which will help them prepare for the test. For example, define the terms and definitions in chapters 6-8 and do the chapter reviews.

Good student studies and makes a 90. They will probably keep the 90. But if they want to do extra work and learn more then good for them.


Bad student who does not work hard makes a 30. There is a 99% chance they will not do the extra work so they won't have the opportunity to retake the test. If they do the extra work and learn something good, but they won't.


Bad student fails the class and momma and daddy are raising hell and trying to fire the terrible teacher. The teacher and school calmly points out the student had opportunities all year to raise thier grade.

Bad student and hell raising parents go away with only the student to blame.



EDIT: Did not know the OP was referring to college when I posted.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 6:13 pm
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:54 pm to
If it's a college class hell yeah I would be pissed if someone got a retake for no reason and I don't have the option. Especially if it's a class that's curved.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

Bad student fails the class and momma and daddy are raising hell and trying to fire the terrible teacher.


OP is referring to college though. Things are quite different I would guess. Never been a teacher so I'm just guessing.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

Retake is optional
Student B declines retake
No error. Just bad grades.


So you both had a shot at a retake, just Student A capitalized on it?
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18704 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:56 pm to
I think it depends on the circumstances.

In my freshman year I had very difficult professor and she didn't like my final paper. Gave me a D. But then she let me write another paper, this time on a different topic of my choosing, and I wrote about something I cared about and got an A on the paper. She then averaged the papers together for my final score. I thought that was decent. FWIW she offered to let me write the second paper, I didn't ask, so other students may have gotten the courtesy too.
Posted by ZBeaux10
Prairieville
Member since Jul 2015
603 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:58 pm to
I teach 8th grade. No makeup tests. You get what you deserve. If you want a better grade maybe you should study or pay attention in class.
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