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re: OT runners - with or against traffic?
Posted on 8/23/18 at 9:50 am to BigPapiDoesItAgain
Posted on 8/23/18 at 9:50 am to BigPapiDoesItAgain
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and see plenty of people look at me like what the hell is this guy doing walking the "wrong way" and not getting out of their way when I'm headed down the street on the left side.
Run the lakes at least twice a week and get those same looks... I’m not moving, walk your arse on the correct side of the road against traffic , I’m not moving when I know I’m doing it the correct way.
Also love the 2-4 abreast walkers....
Posted on 8/23/18 at 9:55 am to Tigerstark
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If the law is stupid, yes. I'm not advocating for what legally is right at this point, just, what to me, make sense.
You think facing the most likely place danger will come from is stupid?
And you think breaking the law, even if it is stupid, somehow lessens liability?
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But going with the flow of traffic is better for traffic, overall operation of vehicles, flow, etc..
So facing in a direction which allows you to account for oncoming traffic and move aside if possible will deter flow while obliviously facing away from it will somehow enhance traffic flow?
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you just haven't really thought this through.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:02 am to mdomingue
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You think facing the most likely place danger will come from is stupid?
Um..read what I said. I said I prefer going against traffic. As an individual its safer. But I think that should make the liability switch to me since I am operating outside of the normal flow. I'm fine with this. And I'm speaking of both biking and running (even referencing the biking accidents) though I realize you are only responding from only a pedestrian/jogger perspective.
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and move aside if possible
I rarely see a jogger "move aside" they are either already on the shoulder far enough off the lane (in which case its not applicable to your point) or they act like they own the lane. I never see a biker move aside.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:04 am to jbgleason
I've always ran AGAINST traffic, so I can see what's coming toward me.
But I mean that's just me and this crazy notion that I don't want to be ran down from behind while running.
But I mean that's just me and this crazy notion that I don't want to be ran down from behind while running.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:08 am to jbgleason
You run against traffic and cycle with traffic. Cyclists are supposed to obey all traffic laws. Runners should be given right of way.
This post was edited on 8/23/18 at 10:09 am
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:28 am to Broken Arrow
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How about IN traffic?!? Same goes for bicyclists.
Neither should be in traffic.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:28 am to StringedInstruments
You could've totally fricked him & got an insurance payout off of that 
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:13 am to Tigerstark
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And I'm speaking of both biking and running
This was our disconnect. Biking is considered operating a vehicle and is required by law to be operated in the same manner as a car. In that you are correct.
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I rarely see a jogger "move aside" they are either already on the shoulder far enough off the lane (in which case its not applicable to your point) or they act like they own the lane.
I see this too. That is stupid on the joggers part but I think (not certain) pedestrians have the right of way when legally on the street. Bad practice and a-holish though.
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I never see a biker move aside.
Bikes are the same as cars on the roadway, from a legal perspective, unless prohibited, as on interstates. Still, it is wise to try to accommodate the thing that outweighs you by thousands of pounds.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:26 am to HebertFest08
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Also love the 2-4 abreast walkers....
Most walkers around the lakes have 2 breasts, this time of year.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:28 am to FlyinTiger93
Well in Louisiana it doesn't matter because the idiot drivers are gonna hit you anyway.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:32 am to Sun God
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Ran the lakes yesterday for the first time in years yesterday and I was about the only dude running in the opposite lane. Times are changing man
Chalk up one more thing fricking millennials are ruining!
Posted on 8/23/18 at 12:20 pm to Tigerstark
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Here’s the deal - if you go against traffic all the liability should be with you. A car turning right to come at you isn’t looking your way before they turn. Unfortunately I don’t think legallyfor liability it works this way. Buts it’s one of many reasons you are supposed to go with traffic even though you, as an individual, feel safer going against traffic.
If you're running against you can almost always see a car turning or trying to turn your direction even if they are not looking. That's the point. I don't trust people to look both ways so I'll routinely run around behind them to avoid problems. Running and driving on St Charles Ave teaches you to be aware of so many things going on.
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