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re: OT PHOTOGRAPHERS: Sony, Canon, or Nikon? Help me pick a new camera

Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11684 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:27 pm to
Personally I don’t think the camera matters so much as the lens. Sony’s are great(especially in low light) but their lenses are pricey and will put you over budget. Same with Canon mirrorless (EOS R) You could maybe package an a6500 refurb with a decent Sony lens. The canon DSLRs (maybe a 70d, though I’m not sure it shoots in 4K) can be had for rather cheaply with money left for a good lens(Maybe a 24x70). A lot of folks rave about Fujifilm as far as color and UI but I’ve never used them so idk. A lot of folks seem to like them more for travel and street photography though, but I’m sure they’re fine all around. If 4K video is really a big focus I really like the Sony A7R for that but it’s way over budget. You can always start small and sell your gear if you decide you want to upgrade.

I’ve gotten to where I really like the mirrorless just because of the more compact size. It can be a pain to lug around a dslr with a big arse zoom lens. Lately I’ve just been using an EOS R with a 35mm f2.8 lens and it’s pretty cozy.

Might try the tech board too
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
34507 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:52 pm to
Sony All day.

FWIW, Sony makes Nikon's sensors.

I used to take pretty pictures...





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This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 6:01 pm
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15195 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:56 pm to
I have d300, EOS40d (best buy grand opening purchase), k200d and a d40.

My first dslr was a d40x. I was blown away by it's images. It was an upgrade from a Fuji point n shoot.

I used to be a camera whore. If I were rich I'd buy a Phase 1 or Hassellblad.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74846 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:27 pm to
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I would suggest shopping B&H Photo in New York
Seconded

Had a problem with a new Nikon waterproof camera that I ordered from them.

They replaced it immediately, didn’t make me go to Nikon.

They are presently closed for Passover (even their website).

They are very observant.

Shalom!
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24078 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:37 pm to
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buy used gear from Adorama some from B&H both are good have never had an issue, both always low shutter counts <200 on the E rated stuff. Coming from a D3300 you may be happy with a less expensive D5500, unless D7500 weather sealing is important to you. The D5500 is surprisingly good in low light have bought several for my kids.


The higher fps and weather sealing are important to me to get the d7500. There’s renewed D7500s on BH for like $600 and that seems like a great deal. When the economy settles a bit I will pull the trigger.

Let me ask you this. I recently upgraded my memory card to a 100MB card (I know the write speeds are slower but that’s the advertising speed for the card). Will this be more than enough on a d7500 or should I have spring for the 170MB? It’s a Noticeable different in clearing the buffer and not locking up from my 4MB card on my d3300
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299428 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:58 pm to
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Somebody tell me why that’s a good or bad idea


Its a nice camera.

Adorama is where I get my used stuff. I've always been happy with them.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299428 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:05 pm to
Pentax is great too. This is a smoking deal on the best built crop sensor camera with walkabout lens

Pentax K-70
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23524 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:57 pm to
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Sony, Nikon, Canon, in that order.
Besides, I’d work on always improving composition skills. It’s that, more that what camera you use, that the pros all swear makes the biggest difference in photo quality.
Next, post-processing apps can work magic on meh images.
The best program I've come across is Capture One Pro.

Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
7083 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:26 pm to
Canon or Nikon. Not Sony.
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3212 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:32 pm to
I don’t know shite about cameras, but I remember you doing a thread about those dope arse cleats for JC1. That was cool.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51838 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:00 pm to
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Caveat: It should use most if not all Canon EF lenses, but NOT the EFS (S for short) lenses.
Actually, there is a setting for using EF-S lenses.

Personally, I would spend the extra money and get the Canon EOS R mirrorless. Their new lenses for this are fricking incredible.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299428 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:03 pm to
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The best program I've come across is Capture One Pro.


You get Capture one Express for free with Sony and Fuji systems. That's all most people would ever need.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23524 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:23 am to
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quote:

The best program I've come across is Capture One Pro.



You get Capture one Express for free with Sony and Fuji systems. That's all most people would ever need.


Yep

Sony A7 series, get a full-frame mirrorless, get (my opinion) the best raw processing software free with it,


and just for giggles you can get a decent mount adapter and pick up a few orphan Prime lenses (say, Rokkor 50mm f1.4, 58mm f1.4, maybe a Hexanon 40mm f1.8) for relative pennies. You'll be shocked to learn how easy it is to shoot Aperture Priority manual focus, and the sharpness of these lenses will also make you surprised.

All I shoot now is AP with old primes, gives me total control of the image.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
34507 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 4:56 am to
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and just for giggles you can get a decent mount adapter and pick up a few orphan Prime lenses (say, Rokkor 50mm f1.4, 58mm f1.4, maybe a Hexanon 40mm f1.8) for relative pennies. You'll be shocked to learn how easy it is to shoot Aperture Priority manual focus, and the sharpness of these lenses will also make you surprised.



This is why Sony wins. You can literally put any camera lens ever made on one of their mirrorless bodies. Plus their sensors run circles around both cannon and nikon for color depth and noise (low light performance.)

All you have to do is go to DxoMark.com and see where the Camera's score and then place that side by side with cost. The Sony A7RIII is with. in a couple of points of the medium format Hasselblad and is even with the Full Frame, Full bodied Nikon D850 which costs almost twice as much. While we are looking at the top of the range here, the technology does trickle down to their other offerings.

When you figure in image quality, smallish form factor (of mirrorless) and cost, this is not a competition. Sony all day.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 5:00 am
Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
2257 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:47 am to
Yep, pretty sweet deal.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87347 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:51 am to
I use C1 too. FYI, they're running a solid promotion if you want full Capture One. You can get Fuji/Sony specific versions on the annual basis for like 40 something bucks for the first year right now.

I'm still running 12, but I might upgrade to 20 soon.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299428 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 11:03 am to
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Plus their sensors run circles around both cannon and nikon for color depth and noise (low light performance.)


Sony makes Sensors for other companies including Nikon. Canon uses some Sony and some of their own.

Even though Sony makes most sensors, their specs are different depending on client. .

Fuji has the most radical of the Sony produced sensors due to its color array.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 11:07 am
Posted by Shrimp Goat
Member since Apr 2020
14 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:04 pm to
I like Sony

A7Riii is nasty
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 8:05 pm
Posted by Polycarp
Texas
Member since Feb 2009
5745 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:21 pm to
Bro, don’t spend much. The ship has really sailed on the photo biz. I have been shooting 25 years, now every bride, or senior has a “friend” who will take their photos for a bag of chips. With the evolution of PS, there isn’t much skill level anymore, which separated the amateurs from pros.
Posted by liveoaks
Member since Aug 2016
11 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:20 pm to
Your budget is way too low for most of the cameras being discussed here. It sounds like your main use will be still product photography of your art. If so, then I suggest a tripod, a backdrop, and good lighting in addition to a camera. The camera should be used, which really means Canon or Nikon (the largest and deepest used markets).

Some good deals can be found on facebook marketplace, but also some scams. KEH.com is a great site for used equipment at a good price.

Most people are talking about mirrorless full frame, but a crop sensor DSLR with a budget/ kit lens will take photos with quality far exceeding what people will see on their phones when looking at your website. The main advantage of full frame over crop sensor is low light. For product photography that doesn't matter.

I don't have much experience with video, but again I think if you really want to get into that the microphones, lighting, video editing computer and software, etc is going to blow up your budget.

For a lightweight, easy to use system that's affordable and does everything - you are not going to beat your iphone. (amazing things can be done with a phone, good lighting, and editing software)
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