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OT mechanics: is this fixable?
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:31 am
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:31 am
So my kid jammed his from wheel into a concrete barrier. The bar that connects the axle to the frame is bent. I thought I could just replace this bar and all would be good.
Upon further inspection, the bracket where the bar connects to the frame is also pushed back about 1-2 inches. Can this bracket be fixed?
Would like to know if it's doable before I tow it to a shop. It's a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee. TIA for helping me solve this PIA!
Bent bar photo:
Bent bracket photo 1:
Bent bracket photo 2:
"Good" bracket on the other side for comparison:

Upon further inspection, the bracket where the bar connects to the frame is also pushed back about 1-2 inches. Can this bracket be fixed?
Would like to know if it's doable before I tow it to a shop. It's a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee. TIA for helping me solve this PIA!
Bent bar photo:
Bent bracket photo 1:
Bent bracket photo 2:
"Good" bracket on the other side for comparison:

Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:33 am to Meauxjeaux
anything can be fixed for the right $
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:35 am to Meauxjeaux
Kid must have been drinking and driving.
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:37 am to Meauxjeaux
It is all fixable, as those parts are mainly bolted together. I would say that due to the age of the vehicle, it will not be worth it if you have to buy new parts, though. Hopefully, you can find some junkyard parts and make it work.
Sounds kind of ridiculous to total a vehicle by running into a stationary object!
Sounds kind of ridiculous to total a vehicle by running into a stationary object!
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:37 am to Meauxjeaux
Is that a control arm? Gonna be fricking expensive and It’s not a diy unless you’re pretty mechanically savvy with the right tools.
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:38 am to Spankum
My nephew totaled a vehicle in a fast food drive thru.
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:41 am to Masterag
quote:Only looks like two bolts for the arm. The bracket I cant see how it attaches but I can't see why it wouldnt be repairable.
Is that a control arm? Gonna be fricking expensive and It’s not a diy unless you’re pretty mechanically savvy with the right tools.
PS - OP is good mechanically if I remember correctly
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:41 am to Meauxjeaux
it can def be fixed. The only question is it worth the money they will charge for labor? Several other variables. Are you going to claim it on insurance? How miles does the vehicle have?
That's not a very big job, though.
That's not a very big job, though.
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:43 am to The Mick
The bent bracket is welded to the frame.
The "arm" is just a bolt on and I have another in hadn already.
I just don't know if the bracket can be straightened out and still keep the integrity of it enough for the car to drive well.
The "arm" is just a bolt on and I have another in hadn already.
I just don't know if the bracket can be straightened out and still keep the integrity of it enough for the car to drive well.
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:45 am to Meauxjeaux
nm.... yea that gets tricky im sure
Any chance a welder could cut the bent piece off and weld a new bracket in place?
Any chance a welder could cut the bent piece off and weld a new bracket in place?
quote:I would say def not, it will be significantly weakened. What if you bend it back straight and have a couple metal pieces welded on each side overcoming the weakened integrity basically?
I just don't know if the bracket can be straightened out and still keep the integrity of it enough for the car to drive well.
This post was edited on 10/6/18 at 10:48 am
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:46 am to Meauxjeaux
fixable - yes
but how much do you want to spend compared to what the vehicle is worth is the question?
plus we havent even seen the bodywork repairs needed yet
you can go to one of those pull you own parts junk yards and get all the stuff you need to fix it for cheap. the money comes in if the frame bracket is welded on or bolts on. if its welded then a good body shop needs to align everything properly, maybe pull the frame straight if its tweaked, then reweld in in the right place and none of that stuff is cheap.
i could see this being an under $1000 repair if the frame isnt tweaked and everything that needs replacing is only bolted on. if that not the case it could be double or triple that much plus whatever body repairs/fender replacements are needed
but how much do you want to spend compared to what the vehicle is worth is the question?
plus we havent even seen the bodywork repairs needed yet
you can go to one of those pull you own parts junk yards and get all the stuff you need to fix it for cheap. the money comes in if the frame bracket is welded on or bolts on. if its welded then a good body shop needs to align everything properly, maybe pull the frame straight if its tweaked, then reweld in in the right place and none of that stuff is cheap.
i could see this being an under $1000 repair if the frame isnt tweaked and everything that needs replacing is only bolted on. if that not the case it could be double or triple that much plus whatever body repairs/fender replacements are needed
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:47 am to airfernando
The Jeep is in otherwise good shape - 140k miles on a straight 6. It's paid for, he owns it, insurance is cheap. He's 23 so getting a new car is not the best route if we can fix this with a reasonable amount.
BTW, how it happened: he's on the causeway and passes a lady broken down. Decides he's gonna turn around and help her. He gets to the next cross-over and is going to turn in when a car is barreling down on him and not slowing down. He turns in without slowing enough to avoid getting rear-ended and has too much momentum and rams the concrete barrier with just the wheel. FHL.
BTW, how it happened: he's on the causeway and passes a lady broken down. Decides he's gonna turn around and help her. He gets to the next cross-over and is going to turn in when a car is barreling down on him and not slowing down. He turns in without slowing enough to avoid getting rear-ended and has too much momentum and rams the concrete barrier with just the wheel. FHL.
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:47 am to Meauxjeaux
I hope he’s carpooling with that big gas guzzling earth killer
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:51 am to Meauxjeaux
Junk it take your money and go buy another hoopty.
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:52 am to Meauxjeaux
That's what he told you. That's not what happened.

Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:52 am to Meauxjeaux
quote:
he's on the causeway and passes a lady broken down.
So pussy wrecked his car. Not the first or last time for that.
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:54 am to Bawcephus
I know the urge, but 6pm on the causeway, I met him out there and he doesn't drink.
I should probably whoop his arse anyway though
I should probably whoop his arse anyway though
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:56 am to Meauxjeaux

This post was edited on 10/6/18 at 10:57 am
Posted on 10/6/18 at 10:57 am to Meauxjeaux
Depends on if you know how to weld.
Posted on 10/6/18 at 11:04 am to CaptainBrannigan
I've done a decent bit of mechanical work, but not a welder. No metal working background either (although I was a grinder back in the day
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