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re: OT Lawyers: How did you go about choosing a Law School?

Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:00 pm to
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LSU gave me a full ride scholarship. By my senior year, I had that plus a stipend. Free is a very attractive price point


What was your LSAT, undergrad major, and undergrad GPA?
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:04 pm to
Undergrad GPA a 3.5. But that was a 1.2 after three semesters, and straight 4.0s after I woke up and smelled the coffee.

LSAT was a 46 (of 48). I think they have changed the scale. That was 99.7 percentile back then.

These were not particularly strong numbers measured by UVA's admission standards. But I wrote a kick arse essay.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Captain Cruze
Member since Jan 2015
65 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:04 pm to
I did mock trial in high school, and thought it would be like that in real life.

LSU Law will be cheaper . but Tulane has more brand name in places like NY or DC. I dont know if I want to live in LA either.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
21969 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:08 pm to
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I love the Law


Then be a professor. Being a lawyer is not poring over old tomes to find the perfect rule of decision. You mostly herd cats.

I love my job, but I'm not going to pretend it is this scholarly romance with the law.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:09 pm to
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I did mock trial in high school, and thought it would be like that in real life.


It ain't. But I still like it a lot after a quarter century.

Most lawyers don't like law. Some are trapped in roles or practices they do not like. I have found it gets better and easier as you get older.

Many young lawyers hate law. They don't know shite about the real world yet so they feel useless, and they feel like economic stooges for the partners. Again, I found that if you work hard to learn your area, and even more importantly, your industry, it gets better each year.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28248 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:09 pm to
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LSAT was a 46 (of 48). I think they have changed the scale. That was 99.7 percentile back then.


If you score in the 99th percentile today, go ahead and enjoy Yale.

Buddy of mine graduated with a 2.7 at Ole Miss and made a 170 on his LSAT (97th percentile). He graduates from Georgetown in May
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:10 pm to
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I love my job, but I'm not going to pretend it is this scholarly romance with the law.


Amen and amen.

BUT!!!! You can enjoy having the skill of a craftsman after a time.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:11 pm to
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Yale


No fricking chance. Not for this SOLA boy.
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
Lake Vegas
Member since Jun 2014
3283 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:11 pm to
If you want to practice in LA, go to a LA school, if you want to practice in NOLA go to Tulane or Loyola, if money is a concern choose Southern or LSU, I picked Southern because I basically pay nothing for school with my scholarship, as long as you're a good student you will pass the bar
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62084 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:13 pm to
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It ain't. But I still like it a lot after a quarter century. Most lawyers don't like law. Some are trapped in roles or practices they do not like. I have found it gets better and easier as you get older. Many young lawyers hate law. They don't know shite about the real world yet so they feel useless, and they feel like economic stooges for the partners. Again, I found that if you work hard to learn your area, and even more importantly, your industry, it gets better each year.



This is all well and good, and I do not disagree with you. The problem of course is that their feeling of helplessness is magnified by the fact that tuitions have risen astronomically since you were in school. Those who ask whether a law degree is useful or not are asking the wrong question. It's whether it's useful at the rates they're charging for them these days.

I've given up trying to talk people out of going. They never listen. Things will always be different for them. I said the same things when I was thinking about going.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69173 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:18 pm to
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I've given up trying to talk people out of going. They never listen. Things will always be different for them. I said the same things when I was thinking about going.



How was it for you, then if you don't mind me asking? Why do you wish it had gone differently? What do you wish had been different?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62084 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:24 pm to
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How was it for you, then if you don't mind me asking? Why do you wish it had gone differently? What do you wish had been different?


Hmm. Well, I'm what you would consider one of the lucky ones, I guess. I went to a decent school and now work in a biglaw firm in NYC practicing in an area that I enjoy, relatively speaking.

I'm very critical of the schools for basically being money making institutions that do very little to prepare students for the actual practice of law.

Sure, if you're in Yale, it's fine to have a very esoteric, academic approach to the law. If you're just about every other school in the country, you should be preparing students for what is a very, very administratively heavy career that often does not involve very complex thinking, and you should be charging much, much less for it.
Posted by Kyrie Eleison
Waco, Texas
Member since Jul 2012
1585 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:27 pm to
count me in as someone who loves being a lawyer and practicing law. absolutely love it...despite the continuing horrific changes coming from our legislature.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28248 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:32 pm to
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I picked Southern

quote:

as long as you're a good student you will pass the bar


So 1/4 of Southern students are "good?"
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
2384 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:34 pm to
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Buddy of mine graduated with a 2.7 at Ole Miss and made a 170 on his LSAT (97th percentile). He graduates from Georgetown in May


At full freight probably.

No thank you.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28248 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:35 pm to
I can promise you that you won't be super enthralled with contracts come your 2L year

I'm not saying you won't enjoy contract law, but you won't be "all about it." It becomes routine, you know?
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28248 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:39 pm to
Georgetown's LRAP applies to both private and public sector jobs and provides total loan repayment assistance if a new graduate makes below $75,000, I believe.

He is struggling to find a job back home in Mississippi, however. I just don't think he knows how to play the "game." Incredibly smart, very witty, and fun to be around. He didn't grow up in the "good ole boy" network and I feel as if that is punishing him indirectly.

I hope he finds something soon.
Posted by PrideofTheSEC
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
5220 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:48 pm to
i will be attending LSU law in the fall with a 25% scholarship. Im turning down ole miss on virtually a full ride around 90%~ scholarship because i want to practice in Louisiana where i have lived all my life.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85751 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:52 pm to
What's in state LSU at full price?
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28248 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:53 pm to
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will be attending LSU law in the fall with a 25% scholarship. Im turning down ole miss on virtually a full ride around 90%~ scholarship because i want to practice in Louisiana where i have lived all my life.


This is a winning strategy.

You can learn common law at a civil law school, but you can't learn civil law at a common law school.
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