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re: OT Historians - Where Was Japan Getting Their Oil from During WWII?

Posted on 5/27/23 at 11:55 pm to
Posted by CornbreadFed
Member since Apr 2023
193 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 11:55 pm to
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I can and I am refuting your bull shite claim. In fact, I categorically refute your claim and call you a piece of shite liar.

Take the bet, bitch.

You provide proof I have denied the Holocaust I’ll leave the OT forever.

Or

You can’t find where I’ve denied the Holocaust and you leave the OT forever.

Put up or shut up, bitch. Do we have a bet?



I don’t negotiate with literal Holocaust deniers, sorry
This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 11:56 pm
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39193 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 11:58 pm to
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lol you realize Russia won the war for us, right?


Russia would have lost huge if it hadn't been for Lend Lease and western assistance. Their logistical system was a nightmare even into '45 as the were entering Berlin. The US sent them 75,000 trucks in '43 and '44. And they still could barely supply their armies in the field. There's a reason they were taking massive casualties into the final days of the war against a German army that was literally on the edge of collapse - and it wasn't because of their bravery.
This "Russia won the war by themselves" myth has got to stop. They were making back channel peace feelers to the Germans late into '43.
Posted by CornbreadFed
Member since Apr 2023
193 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 12:07 am to
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Russia would have lost huge if it hadn't been for Lend Lease and western assistance. Their logistical system was a nightmare even into '45 as the were entering Berlin. The US sent them 75,000 trucks in '43 and '44.


Lend lease just expedited Russian victory. The Germans had zero chance of winning WW2 so quit the copium.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72284 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 12:14 am to
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I don’t negotiate with literal Holocaust deniers, sorry


Still waiting to see where I’ve denied the Holocaust.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20386 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 12:37 am to
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A lot of lost semen was found found on your chin


This certainly seems out of place Memorial Day weekend.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20386 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 12:48 am to
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LSURussian


Do you know a guy named NFLSU? You guys could be twins based on your verbiage, style and demeanor.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20386 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 12:54 am to
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I’ll tell you what. Let’s make a bet. A ban bet


Don’t do that. CornbreadFed and LSURussian are just personalities of this website’s owners. They just want to get you pissed off so you will respond to them for 20 pages. They will play off of each other to really sell it. But don’t do it.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22292 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:32 am to
And to say Russian is trying to say that the Russians were the ones who ended WII2 is laughable. Those outposts he described where the Russians allegedly routed Japanese positions is laughable. Maybe a Russian Battalion was used to eliminate those Japanese positions, and that’s a strong maybe. The atomic bombs unleashed on Hiroshima and Nagasaki did far more damage to the Japanese where they had no other options. The US wasn’t going to sacrifice the men from the USMC and US Army to invade the homeland of the Japanese.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133660 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:33 am to
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CornbreadFed and LSURussian are just personalities of this website’s owners. They just want to get you pissed off so you will respond to them for 20 pages.
Hey, Chicken, this Gump is just too smart for us. We’re busted.

Oh, well, it was nice while it lasted.

Just one question, Chicken: does this mean you’re going to stop making those $10,000/month deposits into my checking account?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133660 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:40 am to
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And to say Russian is trying to say that the Russians were the ones who ended WII2 is laughable
Are you functionally illiterate?!?
I didn’t claim that. I said that’s what the Russians’ history books teach the Russians.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22292 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:54 am to
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Later in the day on August 9, 1945, the Soviet Union declared war on Japan after six hours earlier attacking the Japanese forces stationed in Mongolia, Manchuria and Korea and quickly overran the depleted Japanese forces defending those areas.

4) Japan surrendered on August 15, 1945.

5) The declaration of war by the Soviet Union on Japan caused the Japanese to surrender, NOT the atomic bombs dropped on Japan by the U.S.A.

6) The Soviet Union gets credit for ending the war in the Pacific theater in World War II, and it only took six days to happen.

Did you not quote this
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 2:55 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133660 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:21 am to
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Did you not quote this

You answered my question. You are partially illiterate.

Why did you omit quoting how I described those events before I listed them?

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When I worked in Moscow in the late 1990's I learned the Russian version of how the war with Japan ended.
I was also told by Russians that the U.S. tricked the Tsar into thinking he was “leasing” Alaska to the U.S. not selling it. So, Alaska legally belongs to Russia today.

Get somebody to read the previous sentence to you before you claim that I believe Alaska is Russian territory.
Dumbass…
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 10:28 am
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60706 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:51 am to
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The US sent them 75,000 trucks in '43 and '44.


Russian armies were effective with artillery, still this way today.
(very cost effective)

US armor sucked and German armor was awesome (just not enough)

Russians were effective at making cheaper armor (but not as bad as US) so say 5 Russian tanks could take down a Panther or Tiger. US Shermans were too high and the early gun just could not get the job done. UK Matilda was hard to kill but with just 2 pounder you had to sneak up on German armor and pound them from the back. UK finally got some penetration when they upgraded to the 6 pounder.

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"Russia won the war by themselves" myth has got to stop.


Nobody says they won it by themselves but they were a big part. Kursk was the end of any real German offensives and that was the Russians, not the Americans.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:59 am to
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Lend lease just expedited Russian victory. The Germans had zero chance of winning WW2 so quit the copium.


That’s just plain stupid.

Without Lend Lease the Russians would have been steamrolled.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33334 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 12:28 pm to
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The US
I seent it on Perry Mason.

Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39193 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:39 pm to
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Russian armies were effective with artillery,


Russian artillery was effective because the just lined up massive amounts of tubes hub to hub.
Posted by CornbreadFed
Member since Apr 2023
193 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:14 pm to
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That’s just plain stupid. Without Lend Lease the Russians would have been steamrolled.


Yet they were winning before Lend Lease took effect? Stop choking on the anti Ivan bandwagon dildo
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:00 pm to
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At least i am literate enough to read a history book


Apparently not.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:07 pm to
Owlfan is a brain damaged pet of some of the moderators on here.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
61934 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:08 pm to
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related tidbit, by the end the japs we’re using unrefined oil as fuel. Straight from the ground into the boilers

Years ago, ships used bunker fuel in ships boilers. Ships would carry crude oil as cargo. You could mix crude in the fuel tanks, lean out the boilers and run the mixture.
A ship came into dock to unload crude, they had been keeping tract of cargo, finding missing crude.
Once gauged, a shortage was found, samples taken from the fuel tanks, crude had been added.

As the ship was released from the dock, while heading downriver, the ships name was being changed.
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