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re: OT Dental Expert Advice Needed

Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:49 pm to
Posted by Tigershatebama
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
283 posts
Posted on 9/16/18 at 11:49 pm to
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either way I wouldn't put it off, it's only going to be worse by putting it off


I would definitely hold off a few weeks on it.

When you had your tooth prepped for the restoration, your dentist was cutting into a part of your body. If you go into a surgery, the incisions hurt for a while afterwards. Give the nerve a chance to heal.

The mechanism for dental sensitivities are more nuanced than the simple "a part of your body was removed, and therefore traumatized" analogy would lead on, but entire courses are given on this topic is much more complicated than what can be written on a message board. But, I think the basic premise is applicable and easy to understand.

If it was small caries as you say, then your dentist didn't likely hit the nerve. You're likely experiencing sensitivity and not an irreversible pulpitis (which needs a root canal). If it lasts for longer than a month, get it looked at again. But, it's much more likely that you have a high restoration, poor bonding, or just flat out injured pulp (not infected or dying pulp). I think your better off waiting at least 3 weeks before jumping to a root canal.

And before you even ask, YES, this can happen to a tooth even though it has never happened to you before.
This post was edited on 9/16/18 at 11:52 pm
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
9417 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:35 am to
I was going to give it two weeks before going back in, but I’ll wait a month to see if the pain goes away based on your analysis.
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18463 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:27 am to
quote:

I would definitely hold off a few weeks on it.

When you had your tooth prepped for the restoration, your dentist was cutting into a part of your body. If you go into a surgery, the incisions hurt for a while afterwards. Give the nerve a chance to heal.

The mechanism for dental sensitivities are more nuanced than the simple "a part of your body was removed, and therefore traumatized" analogy would lead on, but entire courses are given on this topic is much more complicated than what can be written on a message board. But, I think the basic premise is applicable and easy to understand.

If it was small caries as you say, then your dentist didn't likely hit the nerve. You're likely experiencing sensitivity and not an irreversible pulpitis (which needs a root canal). If it lasts for longer than a month, get it looked at again. But, it's much more likely that you have a high restoration, poor bonding, or just flat out injured pulp (not infected or dying pulp). I think your better off waiting at least 3 weeks before jumping to a root canal.

And before you even ask, YES, this can happen to a tooth even though it has never happened to you before.



Generally good advice, but if he has a high restoration, wouldn't it be better to have it checked asap? A high restoration that is not adjusted may be the last insult that sends to tooth to root canal land. Same goes for a poor bond IMHO.

I'd have the tooth checked for high restoration or improper bonding as soon as you can.
This post was edited on 9/17/18 at 7:33 am
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:01 am to
I jabbed my gum 6 months ago with a proxabrush. Got a small but damaging infection that Dentist tried a penicillin script on, didn't get it all. A month ago he decided to cut and clean and found on the exterior the tooth had an unexpected curve that was holding a packet of infection so he shaved that down flat and another round of penicillin. $860.

Surgery site kept weeping, got a secondary infection. So last Thursday he reopened found the secondary infection spread and cleaned out/cut open about half my lower palate and put me on Clindamycin. Cost: $0 except about $30 for the antibiotic.

Tell your Dentist to bill it as a complication from last procedure and eat the costs!
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
16056 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:25 am to
quote:

You can take 800mg of ibuprofen 3 times a day for a week
Great for the tooth but must be hard on a your liver.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:35 am to
Make sure you bite isn’t off with the new filling. If it bugs you in your sleep you may be causing trauma to the tooth without knowing it. Had it happen to me.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33219 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 9:36 am to
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Just get the freaking root canal you cheap bastard

frick that, I would get a second opinion. Having a trust worthy dentist is invaluable.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 9:38 am to
Sounds like they were trying to save you from needing a root canal, but once they started drilling they realized that wasn't an option.

It happens.
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18463 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 10:58 am to
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Great for the tooth but must be hard on a your liver.


This is wrong, NSAIDS rarely affect the liver. I think you are confusing this with tylenol.
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
20650 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 11:09 am to
Personally I'd give it a few more weeks. The nerve is inflamed but it could be reversible pulpitis at this point.


Is it a quick sharp pain to cold or is it something that lingers for 20+ seconds? If it's the latter you're already set for a root canal but the former you have good odds it heals on own. If it's mostly when chewing the filling could just be high.

But yeah shite happens. I've learned to explain that any time a hand piece touches a tooth, it could end up in a root canal. If it's a molar get it done by an endo and ask him for a pros referral if you want someone to do the crown.
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18463 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 11:58 am to
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ask him for a pros referral if you want someone to do the crown.


That's funny! You must be a perio resident.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
30431 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 12:01 pm to
I had a dentist break the drill bit off in my root during a root canal, she said it would be fine and just left it.

Had nothing but problems for years and finally lost the entire tooth, and it costs me out the arse.

I would tell them they screwed up and ask if you can get a discount on the root canal crown

Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
20650 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 12:02 pm to
Haha no but if he's hellbent on not giving his GP any more money. No endo is going to refer him to a different GP to do the crown.
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
9417 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 12:08 pm to
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Haha no but if he's hellbent on not giving his GP any more money. No endo is going to refer him to a different GP to do the crown.

I might be more willing to go to my GP now based on what I’ve read.

But definitely will request an endodontist since this is a molar.

Still hoping it heals!
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45194 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 12:33 pm to
A filling doesnt guarantee not needing a root canal.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77214 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 1:39 pm to
Just because you have sensitivity or bite pain now doesn't mean it was a shoddy job. It just means you need to start flossing your teeth twice a day and laying off the sodas. That said, if a filling is small then it is normal to have some sensitivity for a few weeks after placement. If a cavity is at all questionable before I put a filling in it, I always tell the patient that a root canal and crown may be needed depending on how close to the nerve it is. Sometimes in rarer cases, a tooth responds negatively to even a shallow filling and the root canal has to be done. But it doesn't necessarily mean the cavity wasn't removed and the filling placed properly.
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18463 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:03 pm to
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Haha no but if he's hellbent on not giving his GP any more money. No endo is going to refer him to a different GP to do the crown.


Really, I wouldn’t mind a specialist picking up the phone and discussing the case with me. If the patient has lost confidence in me, even if the situation was due to the patient wrongly placing blame due to ignorance, I wouldn’t be insulted if they wanted to go elsewhere. A heads up phone call is appreciated, a blind referral to another GP is not.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:14 pm to
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She said that with teeth sometimes unexpected things happen and that’s just how it goes.


Opposed to other things?
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
25247 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:25 pm to
Dental Convention up in here

Can I get some CE from this?
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18463 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 5:44 pm to
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Can I get some CE from this?


AGD# please.

I’ll make sure you get credit.
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