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Posted on 5/15/21 at 6:38 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 6:38 pm
How would the OT handle the issue of the mentally ill, whether they are homeless or a type of criminals.

It is probably one of the biggest issues facing society as homelessness continues to rise and issues of police using excessive force on those who are mentally handicapped escalates.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 6:46 pm to
Mental health problems have gone from being stigmatized to being seen as badges of honor. It's the same with victimization.

These changes in our culture aren't workable. You can't glorify everything weak or weird and expect people not to be weak and weird.

You're crazy, you were abused, you're some minority... I say "tough shite." We have to say that or nothing will work.
Posted by LSUBFA83
Member since May 2012
3334 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 6:51 pm to
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Mental health problems have gone from being stigmatized to being seen as badges of honor. It's the same with victimization


So true. Social media is full of females announcing that no one understands the hell they go through daily because of depression and anxiety. I think it's because today's generations are soft. Try living through a true economic depression without government assistance or a World War. Today's issues are a piece of cake.
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
175888 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 6:51 pm to
Drugs
Posted by Burrow Bengals
Member since May 2021
20 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 6:51 pm to
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mentally ill, whether they are homeless or a type of criminals.


Democrats?

Work camps
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
7795 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 6:52 pm to
Round them up and put them in an arena
Sell tickets and live stream it
Profit
Use profit to pay for shrinks to help deal with what you saw
Become mentally ill
Get rounded up
Repeat
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18768 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 6:54 pm to
Bring back the big institutions and warehouse them. It’ll be worth the tax money to get them off the streets.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54060 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 6:55 pm to
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How would the OT handle the issue of the mentally ill, whether they are homeless or a type of criminals.

I would first stop defunding mental health facilities across the country.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49274 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 6:57 pm to
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would first stop defunding mental health facilities across the country.

The first real answer here. Would also decriminalize drugs and have addicts recommended to a rehab center instead of jail or drug courts
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22301 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 6:59 pm to
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Try living through a true economic depression without government assistance or a World War. Today's issues are a piece of cake



If history teaches us anything it's that hard times are coming. Hard times are always coming.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 7:00 pm to
Won't lie I'm a big believer on the government doing more to those with mental health issues. Especially with those with PTSD and those of abuse
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66790 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 7:01 pm to
Yep. I’m with both of y’all.

But I think the OP is asking ‘then what’ for those who still fall between the cracks.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
7795 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 7:06 pm to
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Bring back the big institutions and warehouse them. It’ll be worth the tax money to get them off the streets.

Sadly, I think this is the best option. I was driving through downtown last week and had the thought "Man, imagine how much better these businesses would do if there weren't crazy homeless people literally every block".

The economic benefits along with the reduced costs of cleaning up after them and dealing with the crime they produce would at minimum make the cost of doing so negligible.

Plus the ones who actually want help we be able to receive it and those who are too far gone can be medicated to ease their pain as they suffer through such a horrible existence.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 7:08 pm to
While I believe weed should be decriminalized I'm against things such as cocaine, meth, etc... I think those issues should not necessarily be jail but better rehab unless you are a dealer.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49274 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 7:09 pm to
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Sadly, I think this is the best option. I was driving through downtown last week and had the thought "Man, imagine how much better these businesses would do if there weren't crazy homeless people literally every bloc

Not everyone with mental issues is a crazy homeless person. Plenty of people suffer from suicidal depression, PTSD, and a whole host of undiagnosed things but also seem perfectly normal to the average person
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49274 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 7:10 pm to
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think those issues should not necessarily be jail but better rehab unless you are a dealer.

This pretty much what I arguing for. Decriminalization is not legalization, all decriminalization does is make it to where someone isn't stuck in drug courts or hauled off to jail for possession.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54060 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 7:13 pm to
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have addicts recommended to a rehab center instead of jail or drug courts

You can do it, but you have to draw the line somewhere. Drug court needs to be a standard across the board. A non-violent drug offense or possession charge shouldn't destroy someone's life. You will never get away from the liability issue, though. Knowingly turning drug addicts back on to the street, particularly with a violent history, will lead to big problems. I agree, competent rehab should be more accessible.

Alot of what passes for rehad these days, particularly for those people who cannot afford better, is just inexcusable.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 7:15 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 7:15 pm to
As I said there should be a difference between a dealer and an addict, addicts need help while dealers need jail
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49274 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 7:17 pm to
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Knowingly turning drug addicts back on to the street, particularly with a violent history, 

If they're violent then they'll be arrested for their violent acts.
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Drug court

In my history with drug courts it's that they're all a big joke that's mainly just for squeezing the money out of people and does nothing to help addicts
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
7795 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 7:18 pm to
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Not everyone with mental issues is a crazy homeless person. Plenty of people suffer from suicidal depression, PTSD, and a whole host of undiagnosed things but also seem perfectly normal to the average person

You don't toss them in all together. You can have outpatient services at said facilities as well. The lack of crazy homeless and their associated costs will help pay for this treatment as well.

When properly treated these people have a good chance to be productive members of society. Another plus for the cost side.

If you are wondering why cost is such a big part of my reasoning it's because at the end of the day these conversations are about money.
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