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re: Open carry vs concealed carry

Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:04 am to
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:04 am to
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My goodness, why does people exercising their legal right upset you ? Make your own choice and leave others to make their own.

Restaurants and stores don't want people openly carrying around here (yes, even Walmart).
I don't know why that upsets you.
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 9:06 am
Posted by saturday
Pronoun (Baw)
Member since Feb 2007
7943 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:07 am to
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....on a more serious note, why in the hell would you allow anyone to know you're carrying?




Maybe so people don't frick around.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37053 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:09 am to
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Keep saying it enough times and you might start believing it.

It’s the only time I’ve said it, it’s my only post in this thread.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:10 am to
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It’s the only time I’ve said it, it’s my only post in this thread.

That dude has issues. "Carrying concealed means you submitted to the government!"
Posted by Theduckhunter
South Louisiana
Member since May 2022
1468 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:15 am to
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Maybe so people don't frick around.


Yet some people will still frick around.

There are some good reasons for open carry, but there are more risks associated with it compared to carrying concealed.

Ultimately, if you choose to open carry, you should make sure it’s in a holster with at least some level of retention and always maintain a HIGH level of situational awareness.
Posted by BR92
Member since Apr 2021
1059 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:15 am to
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Restaurants and stores don't want people openly carrying around here (yes, even Walmart).
I don't know why that upsets you.



I never said that it upset me. If a private business doesn't allow firearms then so be it. I will either patronize another business or go and lock the gun in the car. Do you now see how choosing what works best for yourself and not worrying about others works ? I doubt that you do though, as you sound like the type of person who spends a lot of time at Walmart .
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
19188 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:15 am to
Open carry if you want to, but it’s a pretty terrible tactical decision. I haven’t read all 10 pages of this thread but the best argument I’ve seen so far is “it probably won’t matter”. Not a very strong argument for open over concealed.
Posted by BR92
Member since Apr 2021
1059 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:17 am to
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It’s the only time I’ve said it, it’s my only post in this thread.


Only a dozen or more posted this before you, but keep being original and edgy it suits you.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138861 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:21 am to
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Enjoy being victim number 1 in a shooting situation.


There's obviously some truth to this, but I think it's extremely overblown to the point where people think it's some sort of argument-ending statement.

1. I would argue that in most shooting situations, especially mass shootings, shooters are not scanning the space to pick out threats. Hell, most of these people are high as frick when they're doing this.

2. No matter what you think, there is a level of deterrence in seeing that gun. Most people are looking for easy victims that won't fight back. Having a gun strapped to your hip 100% makes you a less likely target.


Again, open carry isn't my thing, but to say it's nothing but a disadvantage is just flat out absurd.
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 9:25 am
Posted by PikesPeak
The Penalty Box
Member since Apr 2022
984 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:29 am to
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I’ve been carrying open now for a few weeks and find it to be liberating. I don’t strap it to my forehead or otherwise make it obvious but just tuck it into the holster on the belt. It’s obvious but not overt.

You're the first person to get shot during a robbery.

(In my opinion) Open carry is the single dumbest thing you can do in terms of self-preservation.
Posted by BR92
Member since Apr 2021
1059 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:30 am to
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open carry isn't my thing, but to say it's nothing but a disadvantage is just flat out absurd.


Very well said
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:34 am to
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I never said that it upset me.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138861 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:34 am to
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You're the first person to get shot during a robbery.

(In my opinion) Open carry is the single dumbest thing you can do in terms of self-preservation.
Posted by BR92
Member since Apr 2021
1059 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:35 am to
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(In my opinion) Open carry is the single dumbest thing you can do in terms of self-preservation



Your opinion is the single dumbest thing I have read in this thread. However, I support your right to that opinion though.
Posted by PikesPeak
The Penalty Box
Member since Apr 2022
984 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:37 am to
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Your opinion is the single dumbest thing I have read in this thread. However, I support your right to that opinion though.

Explain to me one advantage of carrying a gun on your hip in plain view. If you say draw time, I'll know you might be touched in the head.

All that does is make people around you nervous automatically.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:39 am to
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All that does is make people around you nervous automatically.


Correct, It creates additional problems because pepe cannot come to grips with seeing firearms in society

Posted by BR92
Member since Apr 2021
1059 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:43 am to
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Explain to me one advantage of carrying a gun on your hip in plain view. If you say draw time, I'll know you might be touched in the head.


I defer to upgrayedd's 9:22 AM post below and above:


There's obviously some truth to this, but I think it's extremely overblown to the point where people think it's some sort of argument-ending statement.

1. I would argue that in most shooting situations, especially mass shootings, shooters are not scanning the space to pick out threats. Hell, most of these people are high as frick when they're doing this.

2. No matter what you think, there is a level of deterrence in seeing that gun. Most people are looking for easy victims that won't fight back. Having a gun strapped to your hip 100% makes you a less likely target.


Again, open carry isn't my thing, but to say it's nothing but a disadvantage is just flat out absurd.


Posted by BR92
Member since Apr 2021
1059 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:46 am to
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Correct, It creates additional problems because pepe cannot come to grips with seeing firearms in society



So it is like Sigmund Freud said, "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity"

This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 9:48 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138861 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:47 am to
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Explain to me one advantage of carrying a gun on your hip in plain view. If you say draw time, I'll know you might be touched in the head.

Access is 100% an issue. The problem is that the overwhelming majority of people that CC don't practice defeating their cover and drawing. Open carry vastly increases grip quality/consistency which, in turn, vastly increases hit probability.

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All that does is make people around you nervous automatically.

You said it makes you a target. That sounds like deterrence to me (which you said isn't the case, in fact the exact opposite).

Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
4942 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:49 am to
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Ultimately, if you choose to open carry, you should make sure it’s in a holster with at least some level of retention and always maintain a HIGH level of situational awareness.


I OC frequently and want to re-emphasize this part, a retention holster is mandatory, though it's not a replacement for being aware of what/who's around you. The fantasy of someone sneaking up behind you to take your sidearm means you failed situational awareness and

quote:

always maintain a HIGH level of situational awareness.


I'd go so far as to say that if you're walking around in Condition White you shouldn't be carrying AT ALL
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 9:58 am
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