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re: OPEC agrees to production cut
Posted on 9/28/16 at 5:55 pm to EngineerOnDemand
Posted on 9/28/16 at 5:55 pm to EngineerOnDemand
I believe it when I see it.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:02 pm to CptRusty
So, what's wrong with $2-2.25 a gallon gas? Everybody makes plenty.
Greed is the problem here.
Greed is the problem here.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:05 pm to kywildcatfanone
You have no idea what it takes to get fuel at the pump
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:08 pm to kywildcatfanone
Greed? Tell that to the banks who are estimated to lose 70 billion dollars by 2019 because of bankrupt companies. In the US, $50/bbl oil won't allow many companies to survive.
Forbes Oil Producers Going Bankrupt
Forbes Oil Producers Going Bankrupt
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:10 pm to EngineerOnDemand
Time to slap this bitch back on the F250:
And this one for the wife's BMW:
And this one for the wife's BMW:
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:10 pm to kywildcatfanone
So when Apple makes a ton of money, that's fine. When an Oil and Gas company makes money because there is a production shortage, that's greed?
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:14 pm to CorporateTiger
I've worked on the production side of oil for the last ten years. One string of tools for one well can reach in upwards of hundreds of thousands of dollars. That's material cost and labor. That's only one part of the many steps.
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:14 pm to CorporateTiger
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So when Apple makes a ton of money, that's fine. When an Oil and Gas company makes money because there is a production shortage, that's greed?
Where did I say it was OK for Apple to make a ton of money? Actually there is a difference, you don't need an iPhone, but gas is something essentially everyone has to buy, so it should be price monitored.
I'm good with oil companies making profit, but it doesn't need to be extreme profits at the expense of the buying public who need their services.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:14 pm to CorporateTiger
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So when Apple makes a ton of money, that's fine. When an Oil and Gas company makes money because there is a production shortage, that's greed?
Yep. And production is measured in barrels while pollution is measured in gallons. It's the oil patch, Hoss, and it ain't never gonna change.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:17 pm to kywildcatfanone
If you don't want the buy oil move close to work and get a bike. No one has to buy oil.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:18 pm to kywildcatfanone
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So, what's wrong with $2-2.25 a gallon gas? Everybody makes plenty.
What kind of profit margins do you think each sector is making at that price?
Upstream?
Downstream?
Service companies?
Since you know everyone is making plenty why don't you inform us
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:28 pm to yellowfin
LINK
Based upon $100/barrel.
In a simple illustration, let’s assume an oil company is paying $100 for a barrel (42 gallons) of basic crude oil. Their cost for a gallon will be about $2.38. At a gasoline-pump price of $4.00 per gallon, 44 cents has to pay for taxes and 20 cents for distribution and marketing expenses. This leaves $3.36 for the oil companies. Out of that total they have to pay for the cost of the gallon of crude oil itself which was $2.38 and also the 40 cents to refine it into gasoline. This leaves $0.58 profit per gallon of gasoline. As noted, however, depending on which report one looks at, this profit-margin can range anywhere between an estimated 30 to 60 cents per gallon.
Based upon $100/barrel.
In a simple illustration, let’s assume an oil company is paying $100 for a barrel (42 gallons) of basic crude oil. Their cost for a gallon will be about $2.38. At a gasoline-pump price of $4.00 per gallon, 44 cents has to pay for taxes and 20 cents for distribution and marketing expenses. This leaves $3.36 for the oil companies. Out of that total they have to pay for the cost of the gallon of crude oil itself which was $2.38 and also the 40 cents to refine it into gasoline. This leaves $0.58 profit per gallon of gasoline. As noted, however, depending on which report one looks at, this profit-margin can range anywhere between an estimated 30 to 60 cents per gallon.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:43 pm to kywildcatfanone
So you basically have no clue.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:46 pm to rantfan
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One string of tools for one well can reach in upwards of hundreds of thousands of dollars
You're lowballing. In this down market, one set of tools in my area of expertise may run a customer 1.25 MM. And that's lower end in a down market. And it's only primary, not including backup. They always send backup. At those prices, we aren't making much profit once you include material/manufacturing costs, engineering customization, facilities, employees to support, etc.. and I would only be one small aspect in the grand scheme of things. It gets expensive to operate these Deepwater rigs (where all the new oil is). People say over 50 dollars a barrel is robbing the public, but truth is operators aren't making much money at all.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:48 pm to EngineerOnDemand
Nice, just put my order in on the 21' Ranger with a 300
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:48 pm to EngineerOnDemand
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Truck Nuts
Jesus, all this time I thought there was some wheel lug nut thing going on with La. I just now realized what you all have been talking about.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 6:56 pm to yellowfin
Since you seem to doubt him, please inform us
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:32 pm to cubsfan5150
I don't know. I don't work in oil and gas
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:37 pm to kywildcatfanone
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it should be price monitored.
I'm good with oil companies making profit, but it doesn't need to be extreme profits at the expense of the buying public who need their services
There isn't an emoticon to express the ridiculous nature of this post.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:44 pm to kywildcatfanone
We can talk about costs of getting oil from the ground to the refineries where most of the upstream companies are paid. I'll put a reasonable cost for a productive part of west Texas as an example in terms of $/bbl.
Well costs are about $10/bbl to drill, complete and tie in.
Taxes and royalties to owners make up about 25% of revenue, so in a $50 world, $12.5/bbl.
Transportation and processing costs usually run around $2/bbl.
Operating costs are usually around $7/bbl.
So assuming you have no overhead, that's about $20/bbl left over.
Well we aren't in a $50 world and wells typically don't pay out for 5 years, so after discounting cash flows by a standard 10% annually, you are essentially not making any money. Add in the burden of $28/bbl at some points this year, most companies selling to the free market were losing money with each barrel produced.
It's not as simple as putting a damn hole in the ground and producing. It's ridiculous when people claim oil and gas makes a ton of money when most companies haven't shown positive free cash flow in over 2 years.
Well costs are about $10/bbl to drill, complete and tie in.
Taxes and royalties to owners make up about 25% of revenue, so in a $50 world, $12.5/bbl.
Transportation and processing costs usually run around $2/bbl.
Operating costs are usually around $7/bbl.
So assuming you have no overhead, that's about $20/bbl left over.
Well we aren't in a $50 world and wells typically don't pay out for 5 years, so after discounting cash flows by a standard 10% annually, you are essentially not making any money. Add in the burden of $28/bbl at some points this year, most companies selling to the free market were losing money with each barrel produced.
It's not as simple as putting a damn hole in the ground and producing. It's ridiculous when people claim oil and gas makes a ton of money when most companies haven't shown positive free cash flow in over 2 years.
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