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One of the OT's favorite thing to hate - the F-35 - is actually doing quite well

Posted on 9/7/16 at 7:40 am
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
11461 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 7:40 am
Media bias isn't just limited to political elections

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Media coverage of new weapons being developed for America’s military is almost always negative. If a program is behind schedule, or over budget, or exhibiting shortfalls in performance, you’re sure to hear about it. If everything is going fine, there’s no coverage — at least, not in the national media.

Which is why you never hear much anymore about the F-35 fighter. The F-35 program will replace the Cold War tactical aircraft of three U.S. military services and a dozen allies with a family of multi-role fighters designed to be at least five times better than legacy planes at defeating threats in the air and on the ground. It’s a really ambitious program — in fact, one of the greatest engineering challenges of this generation.

And it is doing fine. The cost of both the airframe and the engine is declining in each successive production lot, with the most common variant — the Air Force version — likely to cost no more than the legacy planes it replaces. Each of the fighter’s three variants is delivering all of its promised performance gains in flight testing and operations at eight bases (soon to be 25 bases). Nearly 200 planes have been delivered. 300 pilots and 3,000 maintainers have been trained. To quote Pentagon managers in March testimony before Congress,
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The F-35 program is executing well across the entire spectrum of acquisition, to include development and design, flight test, production, fielding and base stand-up, sustainment of fielded aircraft, and building a global sustainment enterprise…Our overall assessment is that the program is making solid progress across the board and shows improvement each day while continuing to manage emerging issues and mitigate programmatic risks.”


And it isn’t just the managers who are singing F-35's praises. The pilots are impressed. I heard a senior Marine officer say this summer that his service doesn’t like to make pilots in older fighters fly exercises against the F-35 because it’s too demoralizing — the F-35s always win. Navy pilots say landing the highly automated F-35 on a carrier deck is much easier and safer than it was with Cold War planes.

An Air Force pilot quoted in one of the service’s local outlets at Eglin Air Force Base reported that flying against the F-35 in training exercises is like being blindfolded because the plane is invisible to radar: “We turned hot, drove for about 30 seconds and we were dead, just like that. We never even saw [the F-35].” That’s precisely the kind of performance military planners were looking for 20 years ago when they proposed a family of stealthy fighters with integrated sensors and secure networking that could deliver superior situational awareness to pilots.

So maybe I’m just overly impressed because several of the companies on the F-35 team contribute to my think tank or are consulting clients. But I would think that when the Pentagon’s biggest program is making steady progress and exhibiting breakthrough performance gains, that would be considered newsworthy at places like the New York Times and CNN.

Apparently it isn’t. The national media are ignoring the fact that F-35 is delivering on everything that was promised — just as they ignored when the Navy variant had the most successful initial sea trials ever in 2014, and when the projected life-cycle cost of the program fell by $60 billion in a single year in 2015. I wrote both of those stories up for Forbes when they broke, but if you are a casual consumer of news then you probably still think F-35 is a troubled program that doesn’t work as intended.

I’ve actually heard smart people whom I respect say that recently, even though it’s completely untrue. All three variants of the plane — the Air Force version that many of our allies will buy, the Marine Corps version that can land on a dime, the Navy version that will greatly increase the reach and lethality of carrier air wings — are performing magnificently. So where are the news stories?

I’ve seen this happen before. The revolutionary MV-22 Osprey tilt-rotor was dogged by concerns about safety long after it had become the safest rotorcraft in the Marine fleet. To this day, few national media outlets have made the effort to explain how an aircraft that combines the speed and range of a plane with the vertical agility of a helicopter has transformed combat operations. They were never reluctant to report the MV-22's real or imagined faults, but they just don’t seem to care that Osprey is now a smashing success.


So why should the F-35 fighter be any different? Even though it has surmounted its developmental challenges to be praised by pilots and even though its success is pivotal to preserving America’s warfighter edge in future conflicts, it just isn’t news unless something goes wrong. If you want to understand why many voters think America isn’t great anymore even though it is the greatest nation in history, you might begin by contemplating what is considered news in the national media.



Pilots Say F-35 Fighter Is A Winner. So Where's The Media Coverage?
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 7:42 am
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76135 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 7:45 am to
Too much bold text loses the ummph as intended.

One person's opinion is what I read, many folks have heavily vested interests in keeping the project alive. It is a gross waste of taxpayers' monies.
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
11079 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 7:47 am to
The OT hates the F-35 fighter jet? I doubt that... I'm sure they just think it's trashy.
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
8064 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 7:49 am to
LOL was this article written by the F35s PR firm? It's a total fricking waste of money. I do, however, love the line about how the cost is going down with each production lot like that is some sort of anomaly or something.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 7:59 am to
The F35 is garbage. It will always be garbage. End of story.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 7:59 am to
I can vouch...there are some issues, no doubt (the acq process to FMC, etc.)

But it is clearing the benchmarks.

Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 7:59 am to
frick all that reading. Can you just tell me what Gary Johnson thinks about it so I'll know what my opinion is?
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7911 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:02 am to
Haven't we spent a trillion dollars on this thing? A trillion dollars for a plane that will likely never be used in a large scale war where defending the US mainland would be under threat.

Think about what a trillion dollars could have been used for domestically... Infrastructure, border security, coastal restoration, medical research, veterans healthcare, paying down the 20 trillion in debt we have.

Bernie is a crazy communist for wanting college to be free to the tune of a few billion, but nobody bats an eye at 30 times that much for a weapons system we don't even need.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:06 am to
I don't think many people doubted that once the F-35 program overcame the technical obstacles, it would be a superior fighter.

The problem is, isn't it like nearly a decade behind schedule and 4-5 times overbudget? We were already technically superior to every other air force in the world without having to spend the bajillion dollars on this behemoth that we did/are.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126857 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:10 am to
quote:

The F35 is garbage. It will always be garbage. End of story.


A big thanks to The Marines needing their special features.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10307 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:13 am to
quote:

Haven't we spent a trillion dollars on this thing? A trillion dollars for a plane that will likely never be used in a large scale war where defending the US mainland would be under threat.

Think about what a trillion dollars could have been used for domestically... Infrastructure, border security, coastal restoration, medical research, veterans healthcare, paying down the 20 trillion in debt we have.


Don't think of the F-35 as a trillion dollar cost. This was a trillion dollar investment in a freedom delivery system.


Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:23 am to
I love shitting on the 35 because it's a fat single engine piece of shite, but it's a fat kid in a magic suit. The thing is going to be dirty once it's full up.

The media only reports the bad stuff because guess what, they don't know jack shite about the jet and it's capabilities.
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 8:28 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:31 am to
So the people in charge of the boondoggle are telling congress it's great so their heads don't roll and the money pipeline stays open? Get right outta town!
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:40 am to
quote:

A big thanks to The Marines needing their special features.


Yes. The Marines obsession with that stupid VSTOL capability really fricked fricked up the program.
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:40 am to
A-10 >>>>> F35
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:42 am to
Probably the biggest single flaw with the design.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:51 am to
The F-22 Raptor laughs in it's face.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
36398 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:05 am to
How many BILLIONS over budget is it so far?

I still stand that one of the biggest problems in the world today is that people do not have a real understanding of just how much one billion or one trillion dollars really is. It's just a word to the populous. If people really understood how much money is being thrown away on overruns and corruptions, it would be chaos in the streets with politicians hanging from the light posts.
Posted by DallasTiger
THE Capital City
Member since Jan 2004
4583 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:06 am to
And this is the author of the piece.

quote:

I focus on the strategic, economic and business implications of defense spending as the Chief Operating Officer of the non-profit Lexington Institute and...

Disclosure: The Lexington Institute receives funding from many of the nation’s leading defense contractors, including Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and United Technologies.
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