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re: One of the most satisfying arrests you'll ever see

Posted on 10/18/16 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 4:53 pm to

Can't believe it's 2016 and we're arguing about this.

The passenger is free to go.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 4:56 pm to
Watch the video of the black guy watching sovereign citizens being arrested. It's hilarious.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:02 pm to
I'm pretty strong law and order with a heavy dose of individual liberty.

The problem with all of these people is that they are taking their anger out on the wrong group of people.

LEO don't make the laws or interpret the laws. If free-girl has a beef with someone it's the CA State Legislature and/or the Judge assigned to her case.

Like LEO usually says... take it up with the Judge. Then if that doesn't work out, take it up with your representatives.
Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
7974 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:02 pm to
That video was so god damn rewarding to watch.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20373 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:02 pm to
OK. You stick by that. I will refer to the below however.

The US Supreme Court started giving guidance on this issue in Maryland v. Wilson, 519 US 408 (1997). This case is the sister case to Pennsylvania v. Mimms, 434 US 106 (1977). The Court in the Mimms case held that an officer can order the driver out of his vehicle for officer safety reasons. The Wilson case gave the officer equal control over the passenger. The passenger can be ordered from the vehicle and kept out until the completion of the traffic stop. The Court recognized that passengers in a vehicle stopped on traffic increases the danger to the officer. For safety reasons the officer is allowed to control the movement of the passengers. A passenger is already seized for 4th Amendment purposes because of the traffic stop. The controlling of movement by ordering the passenger back into the vehicle, or out of the vehicle, or to sit on the curb are all minimal additional intrusions. Weighing this against the officer’s safety, the Court held that the intrusion was reasonable. If the passenger is already seized by virtue of the traffic stop, the officer does not need further reasonable suspicion under Terry to control the movement of that person. The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals held in the Oklahoma case of US v. Barnes, 156 F.3d 1244 (1998) that a passenger in a vehicle can be detained, ordered from the vehicle, and made to stand by a fence for the officer's safety, the passenger's safety, and to minimize distraction to the dog during a sniff of the vehicle. The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals held in US v. Williams, 419 F.3d 1029 (2005) that the officer can order a passenger in a vehicle, who was trying to exit and leave a traffic stop, back into the vehicle. “Allowing a passenger, or passengers, to wander freely about while a lone officer conducts a traffic stop presents a dangerous situation by splitting the officer’s attention between two or more individuals, and enabling the driver and/or the passenger(s) to take advantage of a distracted officer.” The need for the officer’s safety and ability to exercise control over the occupants in a vehicle stopped on traffic outweigh the minimal intrusion into the passenger’s liberty. Finally, in Arizona V. Johnson, 000 US 07–1122 (2009), the United States Supreme Court held that, ""A reasonable passenger would understand that during the time a car is lawfully stopped, he or she is not free to terminate the encounter with the police and move about at will."

Police officers have the authority during lawful traffic stops to control all occupants of the vehicle. The officer can prevent passengers from exiting and leaving the scene. The officer can make a passenger get out of the vehicle, sit on the curb, stand by a fence, or follow any other reasonable request to ensure the officer's and passenger's safety. The officer's authority to control the occupants of a stopped vehicle ends when the officer no longer needs to control the scene and advises the occupants they are free to leave.
Posted by tss22h8
30.4 N 90.9 W
Member since Jan 2007
18793 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:06 pm to
Just some more sovereign citizen bullshite.

And the chick talks like a chihuahua.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 5:07 pm
Posted by Bossier2323
Bossier CIty
Member since Sep 2014
1918 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:17 pm to
No way I could be a cop.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:20 pm to

Your case law doesn't say a word about her right to ask if she is being detained, free to go or a myriad of other case law rights. Sure, he can order her out of the car. Fine. Say she can't walk to a house? Nope. She's free to go. Keep looking.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:23 pm to
'i am of the earth' ...

Posted by Chief10
Member since Sep 2016
202 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:25 pm to
quote:


The US Supreme Court started giving guidance on this issue in Maryland v. Wilson, 519 US 408 (1997). This case is the sister case to Pennsylvania v. Mimms, 434 US 106 (1977). The Court in the Mimms case held that an officer can order the driver out of his vehicle for officer safety reasons. The Wilson case gave the officer equal control over the passenger. The passenger can be ordered from the vehicle and kept out until the completion of the traffic stop. The Court recognized that passengers in a vehicle stopped on traffic increases the danger to the officer. For safety reasons the officer is allowed to control the movement of the passengers. A passenger is already seized for 4th Amendment purposes because of the traffic stop. The controlling of movement by ordering the passenger back into the vehicle, or out of the vehicle, or to sit on the curb are all minimal additional intrusions. Weighing this against the officer’s safety, the Court held that the intrusion was reasonable. If the passenger is already seized by virtue of the traffic stop, the officer does not need further reasonable suspicion under Terry to control the movement of that person. The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals held in the Oklahoma case of US v. Barnes, 156 F.3d 1244 (1998) that a passenger in a vehicle can be detained, ordered from the vehicle, and made to stand by a fence for the officer's safety, the passenger's safety, and to minimize distraction to the dog during a sniff of the vehicle. The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals held in US v. Williams, 419 F.3d 1029 (2005) that the officer can order a passenger in a vehicle, who was trying to exit and leave a traffic stop, back into the vehicle. “Allowing a passenger, or passengers, to wander freely about while a lone officer conducts a traffic stop presents a dangerous situation by splitting the officer’s attention between two or more individuals, and enabling the driver and/or the passenger(s) to take advantage of a distracted officer.” The need for the officer’s safety and ability to exercise control over the occupants in a vehicle stopped on traffic outweigh the minimal intrusion into the passenger’s liberty. Finally, in Arizona V. Johnson, 000 US 07–1122 (2009), the United States Supreme Court held that, ""A reasonable passenger would understand that during the time a car is lawfully stopped, he or she is not free to terminate the encounter with the police and move about at will."

Police officers have the authority during lawful traffic stops to control all occupants of the vehicle. The officer can prevent passengers from exiting and leaving the scene. The officer can make a passenger get out of the vehicle, sit on the curb, stand by a fence, or follow any other reasonable request to ensure the officer's and passenger's safety. The officer's authority to control the occupants of a stopped vehicle ends when the officer no longer needs to control the scene and advises the occupants they are free to leave.



Can't wait to hear Sao's rebuddle against this.


Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:26 pm to
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rebuddle


Classic Chief
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

Rebuddle


Guilty of gross educational negligence.

Posted by Chief10
Member since Sep 2016
202 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:36 pm to
Your avatar is guilty of ugly negligence.

Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:39 pm to

Got that right. You should see the skank in the creek bikini pic.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13692 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:40 pm to
Her parent(s) need to be beaten in a public square for this shite




Who are we kidding? It's likely just a guardian...
Posted by Chief10
Member since Sep 2016
202 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:40 pm to
Waiting...

Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122522 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:43 pm to
Here is the video I saw the video the OP posted. It has other similar type of arrest.

LINK

Is there anything specific to search for other than black guy watching sovereign citizens?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
47429 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:44 pm to
Are you as incapable of reading as incapable of thought?

From his text:

quote:

Finally, in Arizona V. Johnson, 000 US 07–1122 (2009), the United States Supreme Court held that, ""A reasonable passenger would understand that during the time a car is lawfully stopped, he or she is not free to terminate the encounter with the police and move about at will."
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

Is there anything specific to search for other than black guy watching sovereign citizens?


Here you go

LINK
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45500 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

You're under arrest



quote:

No I'm not



You got me fam.
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