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re: One of my friends got the schedule for her kid's "virtual learning"

Posted on 8/7/20 at 10:29 am to
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37001 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 10:29 am to
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Agreed we should cut salaries of everyone working from home


That only applies if those working from home are sending their work off for someone else to do.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 10:29 am to
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Because learning isn't just teachers lecturing on videos. Students will still do homework, projects, etc. That all needs to be graded. And if you're in a public school with ECE students in your classes or a mix of AP/Honors/Regular you have to provide differential instruction.




right, because there's no such thing as online testing and automated grading.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71549 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 10:35 am to
What bothers me the most about the current state of schooling is the fact that it has been decided to go all virtual in some districts. That's fine, whatever.

But, ever since the announcement to go all virtual, more districts have been trying to figure out how to have "school" without the school. Meaning, they are offering childcare programs at community centers and other places where, for so many hours a day, the kids can bring their supplies, use the internet, and tutors will even be available if the kids need help!

That IS school. However, it uses childcare workers, volunteers, and private tutors. None of those groups are unionized and none have collective bargaining power. Why are those people more expendable than teachers?
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12190 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 10:58 am to
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You really are.
Yeah, I said that.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12190 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 11:01 am to
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right, because there's no such thing as online testing and automated grading.

For reading and writing, no, there isn't.

LSU students constantly bitch about the testing center and how their math and accounting tests are graded.

You want that for first graders? Factory education? Seig heil, comrade comeaux.
This post was edited on 8/7/20 at 11:03 am
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 11:05 am to
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That IS school. However, it uses childcare workers, volunteers, and private tutors. None of those groups are unionized and none have collective bargaining power. Why are those people more expendable than teachers?


Not completely, the child care centers aren’t doing the lesson plan and lesson delivery. Not saying they couldn’t, but they don’t. So functionally, you’re paying them to be teaching assistants.

I do agree with the larger point you’re hinting at. The traditional K-12 model is incredibly dated. Obviously everyone wants a safe return to the building, but If school systems let this alternative arrangement drag out too long they run the risk of rendering themselves irrelevant.
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2342 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 11:07 am to
Virtual learning is going to be the new norm.

Nashville is outsourcing it and Knoxville is considering it. Teachers are only hurting themselves.

Knoxnews Outsourcing
Posted by Wermanium
Member since Apr 2016
760 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 11:16 am to
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most places that are all virtual learning are setting up "community centers" where you can drop your kids off to do virtual learning with other kids and "counselors"...

...I'm not joking


Geez. That's not happening here.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6611 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 11:22 am to
My wife is teaching 44 kindergarten and 1st graders in Gulf Shores.
Getting same pay.
Doing maybe 1/4 of the work.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 11:23 am to
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Virtual learning is going to be the new norm.

Nashville is outsourcing it and Knoxville is considering it. Teachers are only hurting themselves.



It'll only magnify the inequalities between the rich and the poor in this country.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39983 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 11:42 am to
How do parents work??? As in at their paying jobs???
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12190 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 11:45 am to
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Cry more, teacher.
Be less wrong, ad hominem.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12190 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 11:58 am to
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My wife is teaching 44 kindergarten and 1st graders in Gulf Shores.
Getting same pay.
Doing maybe 1/4 of the work.

Are you bragging that your school district sucks and you married a sloth?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78062 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 12:00 pm to
Well, it is public school and paid for by others. You get what you pay for.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:28 pm to
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How do parents work??? As in at their paying jobs???


I mean, this is literally the situation parents across America are demanding an answer to while entitled teachers go on Facebook and say "I'm not your kid's babysitter" (another direct quote from a teacher in this system).

For now, our company is allowing her to work split shifts and flex days off, while her husband works 50 hours a week at home, attempting to balance his actual job with this other bullshite.

I thank god every day I have a toddler, I have no idea what we'd do if she was in school.
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