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re: OLOL is givimg employees until 10/31 to be vaccinated or be fired.

Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
1510 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:25 pm to
I’m calling bullshite. Hospitals have tried this and failed.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:26 pm to
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1. Unvaccinated person who wears a mask and socially distances
Unvaccinated people are doing neither of those things
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40297 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:26 pm to
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1. Unvaccinated person who wears a mask and socially distances


I would go with this one given the numbers we’ve seen.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
15746 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:26 pm to
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Masks and distancing don’t.


I'm sorry, what?!

Masks are debatable, for sure

But this shite ain't floating around in the air like a protein fart in the cubicle farm... social distancing does work
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40297 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:27 pm to
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Unvaccinated people are doing neither of those things


Yea this too.


Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40297 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:28 pm to
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But this shite ain't floating around in the air like a protein fart in the cubicle farm... social distancing does work


I was more talking about in the unlikely event that you do still catch it.

Regardless, social distancing died a long time ago.
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7897 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:28 pm to
Why not one week? Beds are now full! We can’t treat patients!
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:29 pm to
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vaccine significantly lowers the chance of getting it


eh..I don't think we have conclusive evidence on that

data is trending into 50/50 territory
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
51935 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:30 pm to
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There are are very few healthcare workers left who are unvaccinated.


Healthcare workers include CNA’s

According to LDH there are 103 out of 278 nursing homes that have at least 50% of staff vaccinated
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26904 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:31 pm to
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Unvaccinated people are doing neither of those things
they would be if they worked in a hospital...
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
11938 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:32 pm to
Dr. Oneal is the new minister of propaganda
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:32 pm to
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they would be if they worked in a hospital...
Does that really matter if they're not following this outside of the hospital?

Getting vaccinated covers both scenarios
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26432 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:33 pm to
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Unvaccinated people are doing neither of those things



Well the masks don't work for vaccinated people either.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40297 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:34 pm to
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eh..I don't think we have conclusive evidence on that

data is trending into 50/50 territory


As of now we are in the high 90s for % of cases that are NOT fully vaxxed based on data through mid/late july.

Arizona is seeing about 6% of their positives from fully vaccinated people. The vast majority of states are seeing ~1%
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76381 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:34 pm to
In the last several years I have learned the medical industry is full of some of the smartest dumb kids you will ever meet.

I don't hold them avove the general public when it comes to this type stuff.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26432 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:34 pm to
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they would be if they worked in a hospital...



+ face shield, gown, gloves, and an N95.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:35 pm to
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As of now we are in the high 90s for % of cases that are NOT fully vaxxed based on data through mid/late july


that's not true at all

Israel had a study that was only 38% effective for example
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26432 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:35 pm to
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data is trending into 50/50 territory



Even if that is 100% true, that's still 100 miles ahead of what our options were last year.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 1:36 pm
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
2725 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:35 pm to
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The vaccine significantly lowers the chance of getting it, but also drastically lowers your chance of it really having an effect if you do get it. Masks and distancing don’t.


74% of vaccinated test positive in Boston

Sorry, but you have no idea what you’re talking about. CDC came out yesterday and said nasal swabs indicated virus contained in mucus of those vaccinated. That’s why the mask mandate is being reinstated.
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
11673 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 1:35 pm to
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they would be if they worked in a hospital...



how do you expect a nurse to social distance? Their job is to take care of patients. If they are vaccinated and masking then the chances of them contracting Covid is significantly less than being unvaccinated.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 1:36 pm
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