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re: Ole Miss student found shot 8 times in lake bottom...UPDATE: Arrest has been made
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:12 pm to Crusty Juggler
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:12 pm to Crusty Juggler
I’m still waiting for you to add one piece of real intellectual thought to this thread. You may think you sound intelligent but you’re really just talking out of your a$$.
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 2:16 pm to Crusty Juggler
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but he will be outed in Colorado or California.
Yes, he'd be wise to head to the Klondike and become a well-digger if he can escape from this conviction.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 3:10 pm to magildachunks
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This is dumber than the half-baked suicide theory I threw out there.
His only chance is "stand your ground".
First, understand I was not trying to discuss what happened but defense strategy. At this point, the defense is still looking for an argument for acquittal. I guarantee they are desperately searching for a third party to place at the scene of the murder. Unless there is no chance to plead the defense would not recommend going to trial on "stand your ground". The size and gender difference between the two makes that near impossible to convince a jury of and brings in the very dangerous need for the defendant to testify.
While common sense suggests it is widely unlikely a third party is most capable of changing the complexion of the case.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 3:32 pm to Obtuse1
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I guarantee they are desperately searching for a third party to place at the scene of the murder.
This week seems to have been allowing her family to mourn and bury her. As well as the authorities collecting the basic evidence.
Let’s say this all but appears like a sure thing for the prosecution, basically OJ trial but with a video of OJ with her recently and we likely aren’t going to have a racist cop involved.
My question is what would be a relatively expected time period for offers to be throw around? I’d assume with a high profile case and a well known defense team the prosecution would likely be willing to bargain to a degree to get this on the books and behind them? It seems like things have been pretty tight lipped so far but I can’t imagine that will last for much longer?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 3:55 pm to baldona
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we likely aren’t going to have a racist cop involved
It’s north Mississippi, baw...
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:04 pm to Crusty Juggler
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Some of the more disgusting posters here are hinting she may have somewhat had this coming due to getting drunk that night
Absolutely fricking no one is doing this.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:05 pm to clarencegreenthumb
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I’m still waiting for you to add one piece of real intellectual thought to this thread. You may think you sound intelligent but you’re really just talking out of your a$$.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:12 pm to Dave_O
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It’s north Mississippi, baw...
Ha, well I meant the accused and victim are both very white themselves.
The dad hired multiple lawyers right? I man not just one law firm, a local guy and someone else? Seems like he’s planning more for the long game there then any plans to plead out quickly?
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:22 pm to baldona
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My question is what would be a relatively expected time period for offers to be throw around?
If there is no defense to the killing there is still a wide range of charges and punishments.
It is way too early to guess on that because we don't know what the prosecution thinks about charging. They may argue prior to the murder he kidnapped her which opens up capital murder and the death penalty all the way down to manslaughter based on heat of the moment.
If I were the prosecutor and could find any evidence to show kidknapping (body language from videos etc) I would charge him with capital murder so life starts looking pretty good to him. At that point if the case looks strong against him you might offer a 2nd degree plea (which this very possibly was 2nd degree) at the upper end of the sentance range, say 35-40 years. All of that is pure speculation since so little is actually known about the facts.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:30 pm to Obtuse1
How the hell is this thread this long? What are y’all debating? I just read the 87th page up to now. What’s the debate? Is it not obvious this guy killed her? Shouldn’t he get the death penalty for it? What am I missing? People are talking defense strategy? Why? Kill this fricker. What am I missing?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:38 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
A few people suggested this girl was not the perfect angel she is made out to be
A few more saying this guy is not as guilty as he is made out to be and could walk
And one guy who is an expert on the case because he went to ole miss some years ago and is white knighting for the girl in an almost creepy way.
A few more saying this guy is not as guilty as he is made out to be and could walk
And one guy who is an expert on the case because he went to ole miss some years ago and is white knighting for the girl in an almost creepy way.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:39 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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Shouldn’t he get the death penalty for it? What am I missing? People are talking defense strategy? Why? Kill this fricker. What am I missing?
Primarily the law.
Mississippi law requires certain acts to qualify for capital murder. They will need to show something like kidnapping or rape, there is the "heinous, atrocious, or cruel" issue but outside of all murder being heinous that it is very questionable here.
People are discussing defense strategy because there always is one, whether it goes to trial or not.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:40 pm to Purple Spoon
Thanks for the cliffs spoon.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:42 pm to Obtuse1
I hear you obtuse, but isn’t it pretty clear this guy killed her?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:43 pm to Purple Spoon
I don’t know anything about this case but going through her twitter, she liked to get sloshed.
That is zero defense for a murder.
That’s all I got
That is zero defense for a murder.
That’s all I got
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:51 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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I hear you obtuse, but isn’t it pretty clear this guy killed her?
Probably, I would be amazed if the facts that come out show otherwise BUT there is a big gap between someone killing somebody and getting the death penalty. Maybe 2-3% of convicted murderers get the death penalty, of course not all of them commit the crimes in a state with the death penalty.
The other reason for the long thread is that in today's age there is an expectation of seeing a video of every crime, without the video people have this need to know exactly what happened. Some people are also contrarians as well as some want to prognosticate with a hot take so they look like a genius or "in the know" if it turns out accurate. Same thing as the Wade situation and coaching changes.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:52 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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I hear you obtuse, but isn’t it pretty clear this guy killed her?
Proving it in court is a different thing. Especially if the defense gets some or all of the physical evidence thrown out. Make no mistake, its an uphill fight and odds are he will be doing a long stretch in the pen. But there's no such thing as a slam dunk.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:56 pm to Obtuse1
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The other reason for the long thread is that in today's age there is an expectation of seeing a video of every crime, without the video people have this need to know exactly what happened. Some people are also contrarians as well as some want to prognosticate with a hot take so they look like a genius or "in the know" if it turns out accurate. Same thing as the Wade situation and coaching changes.
The CSI effect. Juries expect it to be neatly wrapped up with a ribbon.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:17 pm to Obtuse1
So I get it. Every person deserves their day in court. A defense attorney can argue that his client didn’t kill her premeditatedly. It was in a fit of rage. I get. So is that what’s being argued here?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:27 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
The one thing I notice is that the local police are being VERY close-mouthed ....
It’s going to be interesting to see what comes out as things progress .... my guess is there will be embarrassing things on both sides ....
It’s going to be interesting to see what comes out as things progress .... my guess is there will be embarrassing things on both sides ....
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