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re: Oklahoma teacher panhandles to buy school supplies, make point about education funding

Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66978 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:01 pm to
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What would the kids make them out of? And here in Kentucky when you're a school that's state audited, they want to see rotating displays with school work, the content you're working on at the time of audit (and after if they come back in a few weeks later), etc. They want standards listed and addressed. They want student data listed in visible places as well (which is routinely changing). This isn't just throwing up some cute owls and apples on a bulletin board.


Teacher threads always make it blatantly obvious who does and doesn't have a parent or significant other in the field
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 9:02 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
108047 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:02 pm to
She probably doesn't see much of your property tax depending on what her local board of education members look like.

Our recent Superintendent resigned after an independent audit came in and found a bunch of non-school based personnel making 6-7 figures while schools in the district have been woefully underfunded.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:03 pm to
Here is another issue with Texas, at least. Not sure how this compares to LA rates but I've been told premiums are lower. Some teachers are working to pay for insurance for the family. DED's are high as well. This doesn't include supplemental such as critical illness, accident or ADD mind you. Aetna.



Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:05 pm to
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We've thrown more money into schools ever since the turn of the century, schools have gotten worse.


I graduated high school in 1990 and we had just gotten air conditioning in the school the year before. The city just built a new high school and I was talking to the project manager about the cost to operate the new school when it opens. He told me the electric bill had been averaging $60000 per month. The school cost over 75 million.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66978 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:05 pm to
You're correct

Teacher insurance is pretty bad and the continued cost jumps are more than any salary bumps

Fortunately I have pretty good insurance and have her on my plan
Posted by Ellssu
Spying North of the Border
Member since Dec 2006
2478 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:06 pm to
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We threw more money into schools throughout the 1970's, schools got worse. We threw more into schools throughout the 1980's, schools got worse. We threw more into schools throughout the 1990's, schools got worse. We've thrown more money into schools ever since the turn of the century, schools have gotten worse. Solution: More money!!!


parents suck these days
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:06 pm to
Serious question because I have no clue, teachers make 35k in 2017? She looks at least 35-40 so assuming she has 10+ years experience.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
108047 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:08 pm to
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Teacher threads always make it blatantly obvious who does and doesn't have a parent or significant other in the field




FWIW, I've never taught but I've worked in or around education in some shape or form since I graduated HS. It's pretty sad what people don't know or think that their relatively well off middle-class school is how it is.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:09 pm to
Depending on where you are it can happen. I know teachers at private schools making less than 30k still. However, some do that merely to send their own kids to the school
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:12 pm to
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Depending on where you are it can happen. I know teachers at private schools making less than 30k still. However, some do that merely to send their own kids to the school

Damn that's fight for $15 type money. I get the private school angle because that can get pricey. Still, that was a starting salary in my field in 2001-2002 in lowly Baton Rouge.

ETA - not shitting on teachers. I'm just surprised that they make that little.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 9:16 pm
Posted by jpbTiger
Tampa FL
Member since Dec 2007
5038 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:13 pm to
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Actually the solution would be to raise teacher salary and the standards to teach.


I agree - got to be both though...

And, thanks for what you do.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:15 pm to
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Breaks during the year are like what, 3 months?


You obviously do not know shite about what has happened tot he school system, the teachers and education, that was a long long time ago - catch up, get into 21st Century why don't you
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
108047 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:35 pm to
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Damn that's fight for $15 type money. I get the private school angle because that can get pricey. Still, that was a starting salary in my field in 2001-2002 in lowly Baton Rouge.


Catholic and Christian schools here in Louisville (especially smaller parishes) used the "better population" argument when it comes to the lower salaries. It's really kind of silly.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49072 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:39 pm to
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Yes I have a choice, because parents send their kids ill equipped to school. :


Bought you a shot. Did my part.
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:41 pm to
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Catholic and Christian schools here in Louisville (especially smaller parishes) used the "better population" argument when it comes to the lower salaries. It's really kind of silly.

My kids go to private school but I have no clue what their teachers make. I always figured it was around 50k but I'm pretty clueless about teacher salaries.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:43 pm to
Teachers work 52 weeks a year now?
Posted by mgdtiger
Member since May 2006
3288 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:45 pm to
I have never spent near that amount My first year I did spend more. But as a middle school teacher I don't have to decorate my room as much. Actually most of the decorations in my room were free. Biggest expense I have is card stock. For in class project foldable etc card stock lasts better than regular copier paper. I actually spend more on that at my current well off school as I did at my title 1 previous school. At my title 1 school my department budget was much higher.
If I don't want to spend the money I don't and just use regular paper.
With my coaching stipends I make 55-60k. Spend probably 200-300 a year. With a lot of that usually on a good pencil sharpener that dies by year end.
Posted by mgdtiger
Member since May 2006
3288 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:49 pm to
Private school generally makes less. They don't have to compete to draw teachers. Teachers want to go there. Also a number of teachers will retire from public school and go to private once they have built up their pension.
Most private schools in my area pay about 25-30% less. I know of one in the area that pays the same.
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 9:52 pm to
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Private school generally makes less. They don't have to compete to draw teachers.

I guess that makes sense to some degree. The public school system is terrible in BR outside of the magnet schools. I can only begin to imagine the shite those teachers put up with.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74885 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 10:36 pm to
suck a dick.

time off for summer =/= cost of buying supplies for your classroom. our tax dollars should pay for materials and resources necessary to complete the job.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 10:59 pm
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