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re: Oil & Gas Industry's Workings to Stave Off Diesel Export Ban
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:43 am to clamdip
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:43 am to clamdip
when MTBE was banned in the US the suitable oxygenate to reduce NOx was ethanol. This also obviously had big benefits for corn producing states. Also, when you think you're getting ethanol free gasoline, you're still getting an oxygenate in it in the form of isobutanol which doesn't absorb water.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:45 am to SouthtownTiger
Why was MTBE banned? Was it a carcinogen?
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:29 am to ragincajun03
ragincajun03 when he sees a doom-and-gloom headline so he gets to make a negative thread about O&G


This post was edited on 9/24/26 at 10:30 am
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:36 am to ragincajun03
Whole lotta BS from the oil companies.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:41 am to clamdip
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But that is a political impossibility, they said, given that reducing the required amount of ethanol in fuel could wreak havoc on core constituencies in Iowa and other Midwestern states whose economies lean heavily on corn
Ethanol is fricking retarded.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:43 am to UptownJoeBrown
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Whole lotta BS from the oil companies.
Yeah
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Shortly after Trump made his suggestion Tuesday, Mike Sommers, chief executive of the American Petroleum Institute, the industry’s top lobby, issued a statement condemning the move.
It's all fluff and bullshite.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:44 am to udtiger
In this case it would be somewhat of a wash. You would maybe end up with cheaper gasoline if there was enough of a surplus. In reality you would reduce the number of bbls on the market at this point.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:45 am to UptownJoeBrown
So the theory is by restricting the export of diesel, it would increase the local supply of diesel for sale here in the U.S. This should result in lower prices for American buyers. Seems logical. However, the oil companies would get less profit. No wonder they are opposed to it.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:49 am to fightin tigers
The USA desperately needs more refining capacity.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:51 am to udtiger
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The USA desperately needs more refining capacity
It really doesn't. We can sustain (and exceed) our demand with what we currently have.
Short term, right now, sure that argument can be made. This isn't a lack of US refining problem though.
This post was edited on 9/24/26 at 10:52 am
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:53 am to fightin tigers
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It really doesn't. We can sustain (and exceed) our demand with what we currently have
The current price per gallon relative to the cost of a barrel of oil belies that statement. Clearly, there is a supply issue that is driving the priced because oil has been higher with lower prices.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:55 am to fightin tigers
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It really doesn't. We can sustain (and exceed) our demand with what we currently have.
Short term, right now, sure that argument can be made. This isn't a lack of US refining problem though.
We do though. We haven't built one since the late 70s. And while we can "meet" requirements that usually means refineries running near 95% and putting off maintenance.
Or we could build some, pull others out of mothball by using the national defense priorities act and increase our capability, improve our stores and sell more on the global market.
Where exactly is the downside?
Posted on 9/24/26 at 10:58 am to DeplorableTerrorizer
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We do though. We haven't built one since the late 70s. And while we can "meet" requirements that usually means refineries running near 95% and putting off maintenance
No refiner wants to pay for and maintain spare capacity. They want to utilize their investment. They do not make money running for years at half capacity.
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Where exactly is the downside?
Money. Lots and lots and lots of lost money. Pulling a refinery out of mothball would take years. If you want to use federal dollars you will sink billions of tax dollars into maintaining facilities.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 11:02 am to fightin tigers
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No refiner wants to pay for and maintain spare capacity. They want to utilize their investment. They do not make money running for years at half capacity.
Except as we have seen it wouldn't go to waste. It would be exported. Also it would allow for fewer maintenance periods to need to be pushed off.
Yes it will cost money. Things worth doing are rarely free
Posted on 9/24/26 at 11:05 am to DeplorableTerrorizer
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Except as we have seen it wouldn't go to waste. It would be exported. Also it would allow for fewer maintenance periods to need to be pushed off.
Yes it will cost money. Things worth doing are rarely free
Under normal circumstances the product would not be exported. The market doesn't support it.
You are applying the current situation as the status quo.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 11:53 am to DeplorableTerrorizer
imagine running your vehicle at 96.8% capacity for weeks on end. You would be deferring a lot of maintenance. While your vehicle may easily do 140 mph, running at 135.5 mph certainly has its advantages of getting you where you want to go quickly, it obviously puts a lot of wear on your vehicle. You still want to utilize all your spare capacity?
Posted on 9/24/26 at 12:13 pm to SouthtownTiger
Unless you designed the car for exactly that.
Imagine only owning a 100 gallon jambalaya pot but cooking for more than 4 people once every 2 years?
Imagine only owning a 100 gallon jambalaya pot but cooking for more than 4 people once every 2 years?
Posted on 9/24/26 at 12:19 pm to DeplorableTerrorizer
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We haven't built one since the late 70s.
But many refineries have undergone major expansions/upgrades.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 12:22 pm to KWL85
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Are we winning yet?
So original.. Stop being lazy.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 12:23 pm to ragincajun03
quote:hina may not be coming to the rescue oilprice.com
China could lower its fuel exports again in October, potentially tightening the global fuel market further, as domestic gasoline and diesel inventories have slumped to multi-year lows.
China’s fuel exports recovered in August as refiners exported 6.01 million tons of petroleum products, up by 12.7% from a year earlier, after Beijing removed in mid-July restrictions on fuel exports that were in place at the peak of the Strait of Hormuz blockage.
The total volume of Chinese fuel exports exceeded pre-war levels last month, with jet fuel exports at an all-time high. Overseas shipments are set to remain strong in September, too.
But October exports could be lower due to the seven-year-low gasoline and diesel inventories in China, GL Consulting, a consultancy owned by MySteel, said this week.
China has not yet announced the fuel export plans for October.
However, with “domestic supply already relatively constrained and internal demand strengthening, refiners are likely to prioritise the domestic market,” GL Consulting said.
“This should reduce refined product exports in the near term, effectively redirecting barrels that would otherwise have been shipped overseas back into the domestic balance.”
Chinese fuel inventories are tight and likely to remain such through the end of October, as demand is being supported by the recent surge in fuel exports and firm domestic fuel demand, according to the analysts.
On the one hand, China’s fuel exports soared in July–September, drawing additional barrels out of the domestic market. On the other hand, peak summer travel supported domestic gasoline demand, while autumn harvesting and pre-season restocking ahead of the traditional September–October peak underpin diesel consumption, GL Consulting noted.
“This is not simply an inventory story: it is a supply-demand balance story, with refinery availability and export flows likely to determine how long the tightness lasts,” the consultancy said.
Reduced fuel exports from China could exacerbate the global fuel crunch created by the constraints in the Middle East and Russia. The tightening fuel markets have pushed refining margins and retail fuel prices to record highs in many markets, including in the United States.
By Charles Kennedy for Oilprice.com

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