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"Oh no she did NOT bring her arse up in here with that!" - A taste of academic publishing

Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:27 am
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:27 am
Got my latest copy of College English in the mail a few days ago. For those who don't know, College English is a reputable academic journal that many tenure-track professors desire in which to publish. It's produced and distributed by the National Council of English Teachers.

Here are a few excerpts for those wanting a little taste of what passes for academic thought at the Ivory Tower these days:

"Oh No She did NOT Bring Her arse Up in Here with That!" Racial Memory, Radical Reparative Justice, and Black Feminist Pedagogical Futures by Carmen Kynard

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The first time I ever submitted an essay about young Black women in college writing classrooms was in 2005. One reviewer commented with a very typical response to my work at the time: why would anyone think that Black women’s writing is important? I remember these words because the editors cited this sentence as the major note of agreement for them. I could tell dozens upon dozens of stories like this, and it would take even longer than that for institutions to address, redress, and repair such a legacy of deliberate racial harm and neglect. I return today to stories of Black women, Black feminist pedagogies, and college writing classrooms not as a new beginning or as a return to the past but as the source of our futures.

At the heart of this essay is a soul-excavation of Black feminist pedagogy. This is not the kind of digging through that steals from the earth in ways that might be reminiscent of white settlers’ obsession with archaeological hole-making. This soul-excavation is a site of storymaking where Black college students, classroom moments, and Black feminist educators have made specific interventions in the ways that I think, move, and understand reparative justice. My storying thus unfolds what I see as the materiality of Black feminist memory, rhetoric, and praxis in institutions and alternative ways we might imagine more critical pedagogical futures. (pg. 318)


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But I am also not being hyperbolic by referencing plantations either; it is a system of logic and an organizing structure that is twinned to the white settler state (Grande). The Mason–Dixon line never precluded the North from plantation-based racial economies, which get everywhere injected in how Black presence is represented. Most white composition faculty would be horrified if someone called their memory discourses a Trump-esque/Confederate white nationalist sentiment and yet that is exactly what it is. This essay acts instead from the place of Black feminist memory. Re-imagining a Black feminist past is not simply a process of talking about the past but simultaneously a project about restorative justice for the future. In this sense, it runs very differently from white nostalgia’s central function of erasing Blackness from the historical record and dismissing historical Black pain and present-day trauma/ (pg. 319)


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As a Black feminist memory, this essay is, at times, an inward-reach to understand how specific moments have catalyzed an understanding of a Black past that helps me to read and move beyond the terms of institutional racism and whiteness. At other times, this is a story of a Black feminist methodology. In some moments, this is me just pissed dafuq off and holding onto my righteous anger as a Black feminist methodology where refusal of white affect (and therefore thought ordering) does its own work. (pg. 320)


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Let’s just be honest here with each other, rhetoric-composition studies: I am not your greatest fan. On many, many occasions, I have even said, out loud and very loud, that you ain’t about shite. But, hey, I ain’t tellin you nuthin that you ain’t already heard from me. Here’s the thing. I love the work of rhetoric composition, just not the field: I love the teaching, the writing, the classrooms, the commitment to pedagogy, the entanglement with the American university-plantation system. I love all that. It’s your white ways and all your codependent folx who let things slide to be with you. It’s time for you to roll with some Black feminism . . . otherwise, well, we gon keep havin these problems, you and me, and Ima drag your arse every chance I get. (pg. 323)


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Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
30920 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:33 am to
Didn't read all of it but...


YAAAASSSSS QUEEEN SLAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!
Posted by SanJoseTigerFan
San Jose, CA
Member since Feb 2013
2198 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:33 am to
Wtf did I just try and read
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
8519 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:35 am to
That is a pretty big word salad that is ultimately a large pile of gibberish.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44048 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:36 am to
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Wtf did I just try and read


And example of today's "academics"
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
6881 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:39 am to
Teaching English is for people bad at math.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13392 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:40 am to
quote:

One reviewer commented with a very typical response to my work at the time: why would anyone think that Black women’s writing is important?





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Most white composition faculty would be horrified if someone called their memory discourses a Trump-esque/Confederate white nationalist sentiment and yet that is exactly what it is.



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this is me just pissed dafuq off and holding onto my righteous anger as a Black feminist methodology where refusal of white affect



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Ima drag your arse every chance I get.

Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21733 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:42 am to
Good Lord. Society is so screwed.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
16068 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:42 am to
A bunch of bullshite written by a pissed off black woman that you are supposed to applaud and if you don’t you are the devil.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117260 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:43 am to
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Reparative justice


Lol
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37471 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:47 am to


Would not.
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
4028 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:48 am to
quote:

One reviewer commented with a very typical response to my work at the time: why would anyone think that Black women’s writing is important?


It’s a good question. Why would anyone think that [insert group here]’s writing is important? It’s not the membership in a group that determines the value of the writing/thought. It’s the individual ideas expressed therein. And this woman(?) has added zero value by writing this nonsense. And I mean nonsense in the literal definition of the word. It doesn’t make sense.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
21279 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 8:51 am to
Radical Reparative Justice? I wouldn't even read that while taking a shite.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107238 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 9:06 am to



She looks like she has to slurp a lot because she has an inordinate amount of drool.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56320 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 9:07 am to
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Would not.



Christ, I'm darker than her.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282540 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 9:10 am to
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In some moments, this is me just pissed dafuq off and holding onto my righteous anger as a Black feminist methodology where refusal of white affect (and therefore thought ordering) does its own work.


Progs love wordy shite that has no objective meaning.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
144979 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 9:15 am to
quote:

by Carmen Kynard
is this Scottish or bastardized French/German?
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/24/23 at 9:16 am to
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Got my latest copy of College English in the mail a few days ago.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
11942 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 9:16 am to
The irony is that this person didn’t even get the point of the reviewer’s comments and why the editors agreed. Instead, as typical, she decided it was because “racism” and had nothing to do with the fact that in academia, you don’t just write whatever the hell you want and that makes it impactful. You are supposed to actually justify why this is important.

Scientific research papers are required the same. Had a person I knew stopped 5 minutes into their PhD defense presentation by a committee member asking “Stop. Just tell me what advancement or benefit to scientific knowledge or society does your research being?” When the student couldn’t answer, the committee member just said stop and do this another day.

You don’t get to just say something is meaningful or impactful. The whole point it to show and explain why it is. That is why her writings seem to be garbage. No actual justification or understanding of academic writing. She seems to think it is like Twitter and everyone just has to accept it because she has a PhD.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
19845 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 9:34 am to
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She seems to think it is like Twitter and everyone just has to accept it because she has a PhD.


Difference is that this isn’t a PhD student struggling through her dissertation defense. This is a full professor at TCU and she holds a chair position.
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