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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:32 pm to MikeBRLA
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:32 pm to MikeBRLA
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Exactly. Everyone keeps saying that it can't be terrorism bc nobody has claimed doing it. The goal of terrorism is to create terror.
If planes start disappearing with no explanation or claim of responsibility I'm going to have to say that would make people be terrified to fly. Mission accomplished.
I'm not in any way saying this is what happened , but we can't rule out terrorism just bc no group claimed responsibility.
I wouldn't rule out terrorism, but I would rule out this plane landing anywhere else without someone knowing considering the runway length needed to land it, radar, people, etc. noticing a big arse plane in a location it shouldn't be landing on a runway that happens to be of proper length and quality.
People don't think through how far fetched that particular scenario really is.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:32 pm to Isabelle
This story has gotten weirder and more mysterious by the day.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:32 pm to MikeBRLA
Terrorism is only really effective if people know what to be terrified of and the agenda. For example, in al queda's eyes 9/11 was a protest of the USA's dominant culture that contrast with their perceived values and meddling in their countries.
Without that its just mass murder, which is certainly a possibility here.
Without that its just mass murder, which is certainly a possibility here.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:33 pm to Pax Regis
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Terrorism is only really effective if people know what to be terrified of and the agenda.
I disagree. People are afraid of the dark for a reason.
The unknown can be much more terrifying.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:34 pm to MikeBRLA
Each and every time a plane backfires midair people instantly jump to the conclusion it is terrorism when in reality that is rarely the case.
This flight was in no way a high profile terrorist target.
This flight was in no way a high profile terrorist target.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:34 pm to theunknownknight
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I disagree. People are afraid of the dark for a reason.
The unknown can be much more terrifying.
We're about to get into a discussion about what "terrorism" really is.
Without a political agenda or aim, you don't have terrorism. Hence why we don't call serial killers terrorists.
Surely, either will scare the shite out of you, its the motive that differentiates.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:34 pm to theunknownknight
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wifi.
per an article (washington post i believe) linked earlier in this thread, the plane in question did not have wifi capabilities.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:35 pm to tLSU
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They're referring to the Arleigh Burke class destroyer, not the one in Baton Rouge from the 1940's.
So they're not talking about the one he can physically see from his window right now?
Thanks for the clarification.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:36 pm to Isabelle
It had enough fuel to get to a lot of different places.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:36 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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I wouldn't rule out terrorism, but I would rule out this plane landing anywhere else without someone knowing considering the runway length needed to land it, radar, people, etc. noticing a big arse plane in a location it shouldn't be landing on a runway that happens to be of proper length and quality.
Is it truly that inconceivable that a group could secretly build a runway sufficient for a one time landing of this plane?
With that said, I still think this plane is at the bottom of the ocean. Occam's Razor and all that.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:36 pm to redstick13
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This flight was in no way a high profile terrorist target.
Why not?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:37 pm to Pax Regis
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Is it truly that inconceivable that a group could secretly build a runway sufficient for a one time landing of this plane?
Without the pilot being in on it? Yes.
Not only would they have to have the 777 class runway built without no one noticing. They would have to know they have to fly low to avoid radar, and know how to get from wherever they are in the sky to their secret runway.
Without the pilot in on the plot or completely cooperative, that is pretty fricking hard to do.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:37 pm to redstick13
Why?
It's a large plane filled with innocent people.
It's a large plane filled with innocent people.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:38 pm to redstick13
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Each and every time a plane backfires midair people instantly jump to the conclusion it is terrorism when in reality that is rarely the case.
This flight was in no way a high profile terrorist target.
If it were a coordinated terrorist attempt, some group or many groups would have claimed responsibility by now. This is why I initially figured it could be a hijacking.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:38 pm to Pax Regis
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Is it truly that inconceivable that a group could secretly build a runway sufficient for a one time landing of this plane?
Or possibly refurbed an old ww2 island base. of which there are many left over.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:38 pm to redstick13
quote:That's why people are throwing out the "test run" scenario.
This flight was in no way a high profile terrorist target.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:38 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
A pilot being threatened with his life or the life of all passengers might be willing to oblige with his talents.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:39 pm to theunknownknight
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A test. That might be why we are hearing nothing. If we were to KNOW the system was hijacked, we could correct the exact issue.
But if we never know, that could be used against dozens of flights at once over the good ole' US of A
So if this were the case wouldn't it make sense that the time frame for whatever's next would be relatively soon? It seems to me that the more time that's allowed to pass would mean a greater chance that such a plot would be revealed and thwarted.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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If it were a coordinated terrorist attempt, some group or many groups would have claimed responsibility by now. This is why I initially figured it could be a hijacking.
The only way the terrorism angle works is if something went wrong or you're saving the method for future use.
Because at some point, you have to claim responsibility to be able to "terrorize" people into bowing to your demands.
If no one knows why or who is dropping planes, sure they are scared shitless, but they have no reason to change anything they do (besides flying) to help your agenda if they don't know it exists.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:40 pm to NoSaint
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many of us were here for the meltdown this morning.
it doesnt seem to be a brand new problem, doc. atleast not in this thread.
how plausible is this though?
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