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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:32 pm to
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Exactly. Everyone keeps saying that it can't be terrorism bc nobody has claimed doing it. The goal of terrorism is to create terror.

If planes start disappearing with no explanation or claim of responsibility I'm going to have to say that would make people be terrified to fly. Mission accomplished.

I'm not in any way saying this is what happened , but we can't rule out terrorism just bc no group claimed responsibility.



I wouldn't rule out terrorism, but I would rule out this plane landing anywhere else without someone knowing considering the runway length needed to land it, radar, people, etc. noticing a big arse plane in a location it shouldn't be landing on a runway that happens to be of proper length and quality.

People don't think through how far fetched that particular scenario really is.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 2:34 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
70987 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:32 pm to
This story has gotten weirder and more mysterious by the day.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15244 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:32 pm to
Terrorism is only really effective if people know what to be terrified of and the agenda. For example, in al queda's eyes 9/11 was a protest of the USA's dominant culture that contrast with their perceived values and meddling in their countries.

Without that its just mass murder, which is certainly a possibility here.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60899 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:33 pm to
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Terrorism is only really effective if people know what to be terrified of and the agenda.


I disagree. People are afraid of the dark for a reason.

The unknown can be much more terrifying.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40830 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:34 pm to
Each and every time a plane backfires midair people instantly jump to the conclusion it is terrorism when in reality that is rarely the case.

This flight was in no way a high profile terrorist target.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40809 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:34 pm to
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I disagree. People are afraid of the dark for a reason.

The unknown can be much more terrifying.


We're about to get into a discussion about what "terrorism" really is.

Without a political agenda or aim, you don't have terrorism. Hence why we don't call serial killers terrorists.

Surely, either will scare the shite out of you, its the motive that differentiates.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 2:35 pm
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22581 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:34 pm to
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wifi.


per an article (washington post i believe) linked earlier in this thread, the plane in question did not have wifi capabilities.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156420 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

They're referring to the Arleigh Burke class destroyer, not the one in Baton Rouge from the 1940's.

So they're not talking about the one he can physically see from his window right now?

Thanks for the clarification.
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:36 pm to
It had enough fuel to get to a lot of different places.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15244 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:36 pm to
quote:


I wouldn't rule out terrorism, but I would rule out this plane landing anywhere else without someone knowing considering the runway length needed to land it, radar, people, etc. noticing a big arse plane in a location it shouldn't be landing on a runway that happens to be of proper length and quality.


Is it truly that inconceivable that a group could secretly build a runway sufficient for a one time landing of this plane?

With that said, I still think this plane is at the bottom of the ocean. Occam's Razor and all that.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
70881 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:36 pm to
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This flight was in no way a high profile terrorist target.


Why not?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40809 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:37 pm to
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Is it truly that inconceivable that a group could secretly build a runway sufficient for a one time landing of this plane?



Without the pilot being in on it? Yes.

Not only would they have to have the 777 class runway built without no one noticing. They would have to know they have to fly low to avoid radar, and know how to get from wherever they are in the sky to their secret runway.

Without the pilot in on the plot or completely cooperative, that is pretty fricking hard to do.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 2:38 pm
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:37 pm to
Why?

It's a large plane filled with innocent people.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Each and every time a plane backfires midair people instantly jump to the conclusion it is terrorism when in reality that is rarely the case.

This flight was in no way a high profile terrorist target.



If it were a coordinated terrorist attempt, some group or many groups would have claimed responsibility by now. This is why I initially figured it could be a hijacking.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74167 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Is it truly that inconceivable that a group could secretly build a runway sufficient for a one time landing of this plane?



Or possibly refurbed an old ww2 island base. of which there are many left over.

Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

This flight was in no way a high profile terrorist target.
That's why people are throwing out the "test run" scenario.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15244 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:38 pm to
A pilot being threatened with his life or the life of all passengers might be willing to oblige with his talents.
Posted by learnthehardway
B.R./Northshore
Member since Oct 2007
10023 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:39 pm to
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A test. That might be why we are hearing nothing. If we were to KNOW the system was hijacked, we could correct the exact issue.

But if we never know, that could be used against dozens of flights at once over the good ole' US of A


So if this were the case wouldn't it make sense that the time frame for whatever's next would be relatively soon? It seems to me that the more time that's allowed to pass would mean a greater chance that such a plot would be revealed and thwarted.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40809 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:40 pm to
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If it were a coordinated terrorist attempt, some group or many groups would have claimed responsibility by now. This is why I initially figured it could be a hijacking.



The only way the terrorism angle works is if something went wrong or you're saving the method for future use.

Because at some point, you have to claim responsibility to be able to "terrorize" people into bowing to your demands.

If no one knows why or who is dropping planes, sure they are scared shitless, but they have no reason to change anything they do (besides flying) to help your agenda if they don't know it exists.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 2:40 pm to
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many of us were here for the meltdown this morning.

it doesnt seem to be a brand new problem, doc. atleast not in this thread.


how plausible is this though?

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