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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:10 am to
Posted by Drop4Loss
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:10 am to
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Because it is a copy. It's shopped.


That same pic was just on FOX news, they said it was of the 2 Iranian guys.

Said nothing about the bottom of the pic.........

HHhhmmmm
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 11:11 am
Posted by Bluefin
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:12 am to
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Can I get the current odds on Q9 since that is where it is? Just want to estimate my winnings.






You're looking at 5-1 odds, according to my sources.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:13 am to
I will say past Q4, in the ocean.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:13 am to
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So, a hijacking gone awry - again - Occam's Razor - but that doesn't explain why we have no reports, no sightings of the plane in distress and, as of yet, no debris. The oil slicks were promising, but now they've walked back from those as unrelated.



I wouldn't be quoting Occam's Razor here.

In any event, there has been a reported case of a flash fire in the cockpit of a 777 while on the ground before, which is a possibility that could explain much of what evidence is out there (No comms, knocking everything offline in a hurry, etc).

I'm following the Flyertalk thread on this as well, and I can't say if any one is 100% sure if this plane made a turn back towards mainland Malaysia or not, so I don't think we can use the alleged "turn" as evidence for anything yet at the moment.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 11:14 am
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:14 am to
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You don't think all those have been checked already?


actually no. apparently the airports/ATC/etc. in this part of the world are not as sophisticated as we might have thought initially....
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:14 am to
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Then that plane is one fuel efficient mofo.


That's where people have to use their brains.

Yes it is possible - that the plane was taken, landed and refueled. And it is possible it was on an unfiled flight plan, after that, to persumabably where those who took the plane wanted it to go. But how likely is any of that without additional (or some) evidence?
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Posted by DawgCountry
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:14 am to
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Bluefin


Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:14 am to
LINK

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Missing Malaysian Airlines jet ‘flew off course for an hour at low altitude’. Malaysian military officials say plane last detected over Strait of Malacca, 550km west of flight path


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The development comes as international efforts to find the missing Boeing 777 jet enter their fifth fruitless day and hopes of finding the 227 passengers and 12 crew alive fade.

A senior military source told Reuters last night the Beijing-bound plane was last detected over the Strait of Malacca at 2.40am, some 550 kilometres west of the original flight path. "It changed course after Kota Bharu and took a lower altitude. It made it into the Malacca Strait," the military official, who has been briefed on investigations, said.

Malaysia Airlines previously said the flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing vanished from air traffic control screens at 1.30am, having taken off at 12.41am.

Malaysia's Berita Harian newspaper also quoted air force chief Rodzali Daud yesterday as saying the plane was last detected by military radar at 2.40am on Saturday, near the island of Pulau Perak at the northern end of the Strait of Malacca and at a height of about 29,500 feet. The latest revelation has raised further questions about the Malaysian government and its national carrier's handling of the situation.

Since the plane's disappearance, planes and ships have been deployed to the South China Sea roughly midway between Kota Bharu, on Malaysia's east coast, and the southern tip of Vietnam, along its planned flight path.

Aviation and counter-terrorism expert Chris Yates said: "If [the aircraft] diverted from its original flight plan and took a routing to the west to the Malacca Strait, [it] may have been subject to a hijack."
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:14 am to
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That same pic was just on FOX news, they said it was of the 2 Iranian guys.

Said nothing about the bottom of the pic.........


if it were remotely attempted to be made to look real, id have far more questions. that it looks like someone had two pieces of paper clumsily folded/overlapping on a copy machine somehow makes me think it was a dumb mistake.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:15 am to
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My bet is that someone snuck an EMP on and set it off. Boom, zero electronics.

That's an interesting point...I wonder how an EMP, even a small one, would affect things like beacons and the like (especially when they're made to still function with no power/in emergency situations).
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:16 am to
I'm going with Q-17

Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:16 am to
Should the Malaysian government radar reports true the plane would have last been located around Pulau Perak headed in some sort of westward direction. Assuming this is true this makes it seem like the Bay of Bengal or the lower parts of the Andaman sea would be good places to search. The Straights of Malacca seems unlikely because of all the heavy shipping traffic, but move that further west and you've got a vast expanse of water to search.
Posted by bigblake
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:16 am to
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Posted by Mac
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:17 am to
Can someone add the plane departure, known path, and now suspected path (with the turn around)?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:17 am to
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may have been subject to a hijack."


This was my thought from the beginning, a hijacking gone bad.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:17 am to
Not that I don't know that pic is a joke, but a 777 isn't fitting through that intact.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:17 am to
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Yes it is possible - that the plane was taken, landed and refueled. And it is possible it was on an unfiled flight plant, to persumabably where those who took the plane wanted it to go. But how likely is any of that without additional (or some) evidence?



There is too much against this theory.

First, fuel at take off can only let it go so far without refueling. There are only so many runways that are long enough to support the landing of a 777, and I'm going to go out on a limb and say we know what runways those are.

For the plane to avoid radar, it would have to fly low the whole way to this mystery runway. Unless the pilot is in on the plot, or the hijacker has tremendous knowledge of flight procedure, technology and local geography, this isn't going to happen.

Lastly, I highly doubt a mystery runway exists that can land a 777 with no one noticing, therefore, it would have to land at a runway people would notice, and as we know, no one has spotted a 777 landing at the wrong airport.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:19 am to
Q5
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:19 am to
time for a sticky IMO
Posted by Mac
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Member since Nov 2007
14664 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:20 am to
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EMP


I don't know anything about them, like what kind of electrical systems they effect. Do they kill any and everything that uses electricity or just things with microchips? For example, would an EMP kill a battery powered flashlight?

Watched Oceans 11 the other day so EMPs are fresh on my mind
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