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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:01 pm to
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images yes. "pretty" images no


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74167 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:05 pm to
I don't see how the pressure would cause vaporization.
You get explosive decompression, but not vaporization.

Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15244 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:08 pm to
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You get explosive decompression, but not vaporization.


Yes, the plane would get ripped to shreds and no fun for the passengers but still plenty of large pieces left.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59221 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:10 pm to
Has David Copperfield been questioned yet?
Posted by BeerCity
Asheville, North Carolina
Member since Nov 2013
622 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:16 pm to
For reference sake, the Pan Am plane that blew up over Lockerbie was at 31,000 ft and traveling 500 mph when it exploded. And huge chunks of that plane were found. Granted it was over land but this doesn't lend credence to the plane just disintegrating at that altitude unless it was a totally new and catastrophic method of blowing the plane up. They would find something somewhere.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:30 pm to
this is really bizarre
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
5017 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:38 pm to
Current odds:

Blown up and they missed pieces: 70%
Alien abduction: 8%
Landed somewhere off course: 5%
Flew into space: 2%
Crashed fairly intact into water and sunk: 10%
Government conspiracy / cover-up: 5%
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:41 pm to
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For reference sake, the Pan Am plane that blew up over Lockerbie was at 31,000 ft and traveling 500 mph when it exploded. And huge chunks of that plane were found.


Because they LITERALLY landed on a goddamned city, not the ocean or jungle! I think the city was Glasgow. Not sure, though.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 5:44 pm
Posted by BeerCity
Asheville, North Carolina
Member since Nov 2013
622 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:43 pm to
I would start upping the alien abduction percentage with each passing hour.
Posted by BeerCity
Asheville, North Carolina
Member since Nov 2013
622 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:44 pm to
Yeah, they landed on a city. What's your point?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:47 pm to
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Yeah, they landed on a city. What's your point?


"Landed on a city during dinnertime" makes finding the pieces far easier than "disappeared from all electronic communication at 35,000 feet and assumed to have plunged into the water hundreds of miles offshore with nobody around" does.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 5:49 pm
Posted by bags03
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:50 pm to
I think he was talking more about the poster who said an explosion at 35,000 feet would cause the plane to disintegrate and explaining the Lockerbie plane didn't.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:53 pm to
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there are still areas of the world over there that have never been stepped foot on before.
Wut
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:53 pm to
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I think he was talking more about the poster who said an explosion at 35,000 feet would cause the plane to disintegrate and explaining the Lockerbie plane didn't.


My bad, then. I mistakenly thought he meant "if they both blew the hell up, big pieces easily found in Lockerbie means big pieces should be easily found here". It's been a long day and my reading is for shite.

I'm with BeerCity on the whole "big pieces should still be somewhere" thing, though. A big enough bang to shred an aircraft into tiny pieces is kinda hard to believe and aerodynamic forces aren't enough to shred an aircraft. Look at the size of the pieces of Columbia that made it back and those things were subject to entry loading.

Cheers, BeerCity!
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 5:59 pm
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:56 pm to
Very strange situation.

At this point, they have to be searching the wrong area imo. From everything I've read I get the sense that a search party this big would have found something by now. I mean, 10 countries have been searching for 3 days now.

Maybe it went down in the jungle somewhere. Don't know why it went missing on the radar, though.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

Bomb?
quote:

Possible. 5 people checked baggage, but never got on the aircraft.
Nor did their luggage.

ETA: Well it got put on, but removed prior to departure. Unless I'm mistaken.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 5:57 pm
Posted by learnthehardway
B.R./Northshore
Member since Oct 2007
10023 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

I would start upping the alien abduction percentage with each passing hour.


Got any good links on this?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 6:04 pm to
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You clearly do not know how sonar works. sonar does not create some pretty image of reflected noise.


Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40189 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 6:11 pm to
Fox news article sort of got into how the black box works in terms of transmitting location. Can those things be shut off? What are the odds that someone disconnected it when they knew they would be out of range of live updates. Maybe it didnt crash, just taken somewhere.

That sounded silly as I typed it out, but hey at this point speculation is all I've got.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 6:12 pm to
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Just spoke with a guy that works for us that also flys c130s for Air Force. I asked him what his thought was on it. He stated that he assumes it was an explosion of some sort since there was no radio contact. He said that at that altitude with that pressure, that everything would have been almost vaporized.
Completely false.
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